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i am scared i have lost my closest friend - due to her awful DH

38 replies

superv1xen · 26/01/2011 18:30

i don't know where to start here to be honest. i fear this is going to be long. i have posted before about this horrible man that my dearest friend is married to, he is controlling, manipulative, emotionally abusive, lazy round the house, refuses to work (in fact boasts about being on benefits to the point where he makes jokes about people that do work paying for him to sit on his arse), doesn't pay the bills but will happily spend what little money they have coming in on himself, and is "stepdad" to my friends little DD yet he doesn't help with her or interact with her unless he has to.

he is a typical control freak like you read about on here, wanting to spend all his time with her, no real friends of his own, moved in with her within 5 minutes, married within a year or so, wanting more DC with her straightaway. yet he has never worked the whole time he has been with her - typical "cocklodger" basically.

he has also caused her to be estranged from her own mother and other best friend, because they dared to speak out and tell her what they thought of him. and he turned her against them. she now doesn't speak to either of them and hasnt done for over a year now :( all they did was care for her and her DD's wellbeing. for this reason, until now, i have never commented on his behaviour, because i didn't want to end up losing her as a friend.

he is also horribly sleazy and always making sleazy, pervy comments, "jokingly" to and about me and my friends other female friends. and my friend just sits and takes it all because she is "in love" with him for some bizarre reason. she also can never do anything on her own, he always has to tag along when she sees friends etc.

the last straw came two days ago when i invited my friend and her DD round for tea at my house and he showed up with them Hmm he kept making snidy remarks about DS and told him off a couple of times when there was no real need to, he just doesn't like DS for some reason and i think he just wanted to exert his authority tbh. he has told my DC off for no valid reason on several occasions. in fact, he doesn't like kids much it seems. he also kept making his usual pervy "joking" comments to me and i was just sat there getting more and more angry but i didn't dare say anything while they were there as it would have caused a big scene and made my friend uncomfortable. and then he would undoubtedly have waited until they got home and had a big go at her :(

i spent the whole evening seething over it and decided that i was going to finally be honest with my friend and i sent her an email saying that i didn't want her DH telling off my DC ever again and that also i felt that his constant sleazy comments to me are unacceptable.

the next morning i received a very long, terse reply defending him on every point, saying he was very "hurt" by my comments, that he thought it was ok to tell DS off and he doesn't mean any of his sleazy comments, its just his personality etc etc, its as if he has brainwashed her. i think either she had either shown it to him or he has access to her emails and had read it himself. i have replied back to her, and texted her a couple of times, but she has not got back to me, she hasnt replied to my email, or texted or called either, and i daren't ring her because i know he will be there.

i have got a horrible feeling that i have lost her :( like her mum and other close friend did. she is my best friend (as juvenile as that phrase might sound) we had our first babies together, we have helped eachother through thick and thin, relationship break ups, heartbreak and also been there for all eachothers happy times, i have told her things i have never told anyone and vice versa. and this ARSEHOLE has been in her life less than 2 years and turned her into this submissive, mousy girl that will throw away her family and friends at his demand. :(

i am sorry this is long and rambling. i dont know if anyone can help me or not, just wanted to get it out really.

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PURPLESWAN · 27/01/2011 10:24

I do worry now that shes the only one working, the only one who worries about juggling the bills, she has no hobbies/time to relax - they cant afford them after he has paid for his (with her money) and he wouldnt let her do anything on her own anyway - it is starting to affect her health.

EricNorthmansMistress · 27/01/2011 12:53

Send her a link to this thread....?

superv1xen · 27/01/2011 15:54

awww thats awful about your friend purpleswan why do women put up with these twats? why? :(

my friends the same re the bills except she isn't working, she is on benefits too, she doesn't seem to have the confidence to get a job, even a part time one, i suspect its because he wouldn't like it and also he sees childcare as her "job" and wouldn't like it because he might have to look after her dd. (he doesn't babysit for her or do anything for her. ever.)

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superv1xen · 28/01/2011 09:36

she still has not contacted me :(

i am so sad, i can't believe how much this is affecting me, its a bit pathetic to be honest, the last time i felt like this was a relationship break up. i keep crying and am so low and depressed.

the worst thing is it is my fault they met, i introduced them to eachother, i was kind of friends with him and thought he was really nice (i didnt know him properly then obviously) and thought he would make a nice boyfriend for my friend :( what an idiot i am.

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darleneconnor · 30/01/2011 12:21

How do you know the email was from her and not him? She is a victim of domdstic abuse, emotional, if not also physical and sexual. He could be keeping her phone and reading/ deleting txts from you and others.

If you've had any indication that he is being abusive to her dc then phone ss. If she isnt in a position to leave for her own sake a push from them might be what she needs.

You could also contact womens aid for advice for friends of da victims.

Remember men like this deliberatly isolate their victims from friends/ family to hide the abuse from the outside world and to trap their victim.
Please dont abandon your friend.

zipzap · 30/01/2011 15:10

make sure that you ask your mutual friend to remind other friend that you would love for BF, her dd and her dh to be at your wedding.

ok so I am sure that you don't want her dh there but for now he is a necessary evil if you want to keep in contact with with your friend.

and send another email - much as it pains you - along the lines of sorry that dh was hurt by your comments, but that it looks like you were both hurt - you by his comments, him by your reaction, likewise his comments made you uncomfortable and that you didn't remember him being like that when you knew him in the past which is why they made you more uncomfortable.

You also have the perfect excuse at the moment - that you are stressed because of the wedding, so hyper sensitive at the moment (ok so maybe you're not but it's a good excuse for just the moment)

so that all in all you'd like you all to be grown up and for everybody to accept everybody's apologies and you'd hate it if a little disagreement meant that she missed your wedding - etc etc

Hopefully if you phrase it all in a nice way, put it down to pre-wedding nerves turning into stress and downplay it, it will give your friend enough for everybody to save face and at least be at your wedding. Also stick the same contents into a letter if you think her dh is getting to her email. And tell your mutual friend of your plan.

First things first is to get your friend to your wedding. do what it takes and park it, then work out a separate strategy for dealing with the situation afterwards.

good luck and many congratulations on your wedding - hope that you enjoy the day

muminthemiddle · 30/01/2011 17:20

Op-You have done nothing wrong.

He sounds awful. Good advice from other posters re keeping in touch with your friend.

thenightsky · 30/01/2011 17:59

You CAN see her alone, without him.... if she works, meet her outside her workplace at lunchtime or at the end of her shift.

Keep the communication going though. I lost my best friend 20 years ago in similar circumstances Sad

PeachesandStrawberry · 30/01/2011 18:28

Your friends partner isn't my ex is it?

He sounds exactly the same.

Anyway Please do your best to keep in touch with her and let her know that you are there at all times, because when she does find the courage to leave this man she will need her friends.

I really hope that she sees sense and finds someone worthy of her.

keep trying

CaroBeaner · 30/01/2011 18:38

Can I ask why you made your (justifiable) objections to her, and not to him?

If he was the one to upset you, you could have told HIM.

It's tricky for her to deal with, because it automatically puts her in the middle, and makes it very hard for her to tackle her H.

Men like her H need people to stand up to them and tell them they are out of order, not complain about them behind their backs.

Your friend was never going to be able to deal with his bad behaviour to you / your ds on your behalf.

Tell him he was out of order and not welcome in your house.

Arrange to meet your friend on neutral territory but refuse to discuss her DH. Unless she is genuinely asking advice about feeing herself from him.

superv1xen · 31/01/2011 08:49

the reason i didn't tell him, is because he is the type of person that can't take criticism, he just flies into an unreasonable rage and chucks the proverbial dummy, basically. i know because i have seen it happen when other people have commented to him re how he is. so i guess i was being a coward really.

you are right though caro - but no one seems to dare to stand up to him. and those that do, get cut out. as i have seen. :(

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KaraStarbuckThrace · 31/01/2011 11:28

You poor thing :(

Talk to your other mutual friend and build up a friendship with her instead.
Just let your friend who has the horrible H know that you are there for her when she needs you, but I would back off. She may well be under terrible pressure from him to cut ties anyway.
One day she will wake up and smell the roses, though I hope to God before he does any serious damage to her or her dd :(

CaroBeaner · 31/01/2011 11:43

Just say to your friend that her relationship is her business, you like her and don't want to lose touch, but you don't like her H and don't want to see him, and he will not be invited to your house.

She maybe thinks that because you didn't like the way her DH behaved, you have ditched HER. If you are scared to confront him, she wasn't going to do that on your account, was she?

She sounds like she might need a friend - the way he controls her will also be undermining her ability and confidence to think straight about her own life and ability to leave him.

Good luck.

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