Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

No strings attached...healthy!?

56 replies

PrettyPosh · 24/01/2011 17:28

My status: Been single for 4 months, 22 years old, working in London living the newly young professional lifestyle.

My dilemma: I have this friend (Let?s call him Mr C), who I work in the same industry as. When we meet I used to be in a serious relationship, so I originally set Mr C up with my best friend (and housemate). Anyway, it didn't work out between them....and eventually my boyfriend and I broke up.

The chemistry between me and Mr C soon built up, and we ended up kissing when I was still with my boyfriend. Four months on, I am single and me and Mr C have become 'friends with benefits'.

Due to the industry we are in, and sheer web of people around us we both know, it?s in both our interests to keep this thing between us on the down low! We are both strictly diligent about this. Just sex, no jealously, no telling our mutual friends, no snuggles, no dates.

The one thing I should mention about Mr C though is he is a very loud, rather strange personality, I am quite an extravert and when I am with him we both play on each other's arrogance, and I let my ultra ego come out to battle his (which is always out!).

He is the biggest arrogant arse known to man. Seriously, he enjoys annoying people and his number one rule is to never apologise. But there is something about him I am so drawn and attracted to.

When we see each other, we spend our time (usually Friday night when everyone goes for post work drinks) arguing at each other, putting each other down, debating. When we are tipsy we kind of play fight in an adult way. And the evening always ends in rampant sex!!

We have had moments of weakness. He was the first, by declaring that 'he liked me and wasn't sure why' (that is a compliment from him) once a couple of months ago when he was very drunk.

I always play hard to get, and it usually works a treat, but this is my biggest challenge. I think he is also quite shocked as to how well I can play his game too. And the whole 'lady in the street, freak in the bed' personality I have is tangled somewhere in this game.

It is stupid I know, and with any normal guy I would have either given up and told him to grow up or just sat him down and said 'let's talk about what is going on here' by now.
But not with this guy. I guess my main dilemma is:

a) I am not sure if he likes me, or if he is that much of an arrogant arse that he is seeing as many multiple women as he makes out he is, and doesn't see me as any more than one of them.

b) I am solely attracted by this chase, his hard to get attitude, and if he did suddenly declare he liked me, I will not be attracted to him any more.

c) I go through phases or thinking I do actually really like him, phases of hating him and phases of being more than ok with this just being a physical thing, as that is what is probably really all I want/know I can get from him.

I have no idea what I want, what I am feeling (if anything at all) and what he wants and is feeling.

It is a really weird, stupid situation. I think I just want confirmation that it isn't unhealthy and it is ok for me/us to carry on like this?

Am I just feeling the pressures of our monogamous society, and instead I should embrace the fact I am part of the new, young adult generation that has more and more 'no strings attached' relationships occurring!???

OP posts:
madonnawhore · 26/01/2011 13:03

You don't think the people you have sex with should be nice to you?

You don't think that if you get naked and vulnerable with someone and let them share a pleasurable experience with you, they don't owe you respect??

Depends how much value you place on yourself and the quality of sex you have I guess.

madonnawhore · 26/01/2011 13:04

My last post was directed at KikiJane, obvs.

sungirltan · 26/01/2011 13:11

i have had no strings relationships. i had one with a lumberjack (yes really) who was gorgeous but far too country bumpkin for anything long term but we were very good mates aside from the shagging. he met someone and we parted on good terms - if i was single now i'd not turn him down for a pick me up :-)

i had another one with a guy who still ived at home. big no no for any bf of mine. we used to meet up for sex and waxth a film after sometimes. i think we only ever went drinking together once which is good ime - stops any our pourings or blurred boundaries. nothing too date like either.

i am all for no strings as long as you use protection - sexaully and emotionally. BUT you really have to not secretly want a reltionship with them. you will get hurt if thats the case or at least feel rejcected.

op - if you are umming and ahhing about this guy then dont have no strings with him OR talk to him about whtehr you are develping feelings. or if you dont want a bf then find someone else :-)

KikiJane · 26/01/2011 13:18

I certainly don't think they 'owe' me anything just because I opened my legs for them. The OP knew what this guy was like before she had sex with him, and still chose to do it. He doesn't owe her any change in his attitude just because she slept with him.

Nobody is owed any more or less respect just because they had sex with someone.

If he wasn't 'nice' or 'respectful' before the sex, there's no reason he should feel like he needs to change now.

QueenBathsheba · 26/01/2011 13:24

If he wasn't 'nice' or 'respectful' before the sex, there's no reason he should feel like he needs to change now.

Quite, no incentive to change his attitude.

KikiJane · 26/01/2011 13:27

It's not the OP's job to change him.

QueenBathsheba · 26/01/2011 13:30

Only her job to change his attitude towards her an their arrangement.

KikiJane · 26/01/2011 13:40

Which she will do by deciding if she wants to continue in this arrangement or not.

QueenBathsheba · 26/01/2011 13:42

and their arrangement.
must learn to check before I post.

madonnawhore · 26/01/2011 13:52

Yeah I see what you mean. I think essentially we're violently agreeing.

Anyway, OP I think you don't need this person in your life.

ItsGraceAgain · 26/01/2011 13:53

This sounds alarmingly like the beginning of my relationship with X#2. We were FWBs for twice as long as we were married ...

There's nothing wrong with a shagpal, of course. The minute your heart starts to follow your fanny, though, you've got problems if the relationship is NOT based on mutual liking and respect. Your emotions are involved, as betrayed by your musings on whether he 'likes' you and where you're going with this. Uninvolve them. Or, better, find a nicer FWB!

The magnetism between you comes from shared faults, not some universal magic. Believe me, I know how powerful that is! It's lethal though. I imagine you'll ignore me, but read anyway and put it in your store of information :)

tethersend · 26/01/2011 14:04

No strings sex is fine, fun and healthy given that both parties agree.

My main concern is whose idea it was to keep it secret? I never trust a man who wants to keep an arrangement hush-hush. It's not exciting, it just means he has a girlfriend or he's not that into you.

Arguing and having sex with someone whose personality traits you can't stand can be the most exciting thing ever. But know that there will always be a power struggle- that's what makes it exciting, but also what makes it difficult to progress unless one of you opts out of the struggle either by giving in and being controlled or by walking away.

AnyFucker · 26/01/2011 14:22

If you are having to ask these questions, you are overly involved for a NSR

you sound like you think you are playing him at his own game, but I reckon you are being out-headfucked here

time to call a halt, would be my advice

fuckbuddy arrangements are fine in themselves, but only when the two people are equally underinvested

btw...you younsters didn' invent fuckbuddies you know

some of us (gasp) were doing it before you were born

tethersend · 26/01/2011 14:25

About 9 months before you were born in some cases Grin

AnyFucker · 26/01/2011 14:35

this has just reminded of a convo I had with my 15yo the other day

"Mum, why do you wear Converse trainers?"

"Why do you ask ?"

"Because teenagers wear 'em and I want a pair, but can't"

"Why can't you?"...dawning realisation, narrows eyes...

"Because you have them, and I just cannot wear what my mum wears"

"I have been wearing Converse since before you, and all your snotty teenage mates, were even born...!" < patronising smile >

KikiJane · 26/01/2011 14:38

My 11 yr old son has basically stolen my Converse. Luckily he'll outgrown them in a couple of months and I'll get them back Smile

batman47555 · 26/01/2011 14:44

AF i'm getting a vision of you now, converse boots half mast jeans smoking roll ups and wearing a CND parka
lovely!!!!!

AnyFucker · 26/01/2011 14:53

batman, you missed the bit about the balls for earrings Smile

PrettyPosh · 26/01/2011 16:29

Thanks for all the post guys.

Madonnawhore I assure you I am not whoever you think I am!

I do feel fine about the no strings attached, and the basis of what we have is pure chemistry rather than lust.

Most our friends have guessed or speculated something is going on and are quite amused by it...especially at our attempts to hide it. They are also quite confused/bemused by how we are with each other either two peas in a pod finding each other hilarious, or in a massive debate with one another.

I think I get confused because when we get tipsy he does the whole 'I like you thing', making me think of him in that way. But then he teases me for like him and get jealous and I do the same. All a bit pathetic really.

It does annoy me slightly that when I am consensually sleeping that some people assume that I have low self esteem or self confidence and sleep with men to boost it or something. The reality for me is that. l I am 22, came out of a 3 year relationship about 4 months ago and really not ready to do that again! But I like sex and I don't want to have loads of one night stands, or any for that matter. So this no strings thing fits well.

But Mr C happens to be an arrogant arse hole who for some reason excites me, as well as angers me! I am also human and think if this situation carries on it is only inevitable that someone will get emotional.
So considering he does have such prick side the majority of the time, and we have so many friends in common...I am going with many of your advice and getting out of it now when I can maintain my 'so what' attitude.

However, I do still think with the right people and the right situation a 'no strings' attached relationship can be just what both parties need.

So how does an arrogant prick like Mr C react to being rejected? The next couple of weeks will telll....

Ahh wish me luck and thank you for all the wonderful insight/advice.

OP posts:
tethersend · 26/01/2011 16:42

Oh just get married, you two are clearly in love Grin

kayah · 26/01/2011 16:50

you going t obed with some on pure chemistry?no lust in it?

what's wrong with lust :)

AnyFucker · 26/01/2011 16:57

but do you wear Converse ?

PrettyPosh · 26/01/2011 17:17

ha ha, no there is definitely lust, but more chemistry. I suppose I meant you can lust someone purely on a physical level.

Whereas with Mr C part of the attraction is the three hours of banter and build up beforehand, which I guess is chemistry?

If anything I wish there was more lust and less chemistry in this whole situ.

I am afraid I don't wear converses. And you are right my generation certainly didn't come up with 'friends with benefits' scenario. In fact i think older and wiser people are probably a lot better at this!

In terms of ending this situation, I am not planning on being dramatic with Mr C or anything like that. Rather, I am easing back. Not participating in his banterous texts and emails, and being rather unresponsive (whilst remaining polite) back.

This friday will be the test.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 26/01/2011 17:19

test ?

how dramatic

just make a decision, and stick to it

what are you saying ?

you might not be able to resist his charms ? Hmm

I thought this didn't mean anything to you ? < hard stare >

kayah · 26/01/2011 17:21

if yo usay test and not end - you are giing yourself room to fail...