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26 replies

caipirinha · 22/01/2011 07:54

I have been horribly violent to my husband, when he had an affair. He has been violent back. I know what the general consensus will be, I don't know why I need to ask. I really was terrible, but it still isn't acceptable for him to hit me is it? why did he have an affair? I want him to leave, but we live in a different country and it really is very difficult.

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DeidreBarlow · 22/01/2011 07:58

It acceptable for him to hit you no. It's also not acceptable for you to hit him either. Violence isn't going to change the fact he cheated on you.

Are there children involved? If so for their sakes you should leave. They shouldn't have to witness their parents being violent to each other

DeidreBarlow · 22/01/2011 07:59

*Its not acceptable for him to hit you no

Binfullofmaggotsonthe45 · 22/01/2011 08:01

It isn't acceptable for either of you to hit each other. Perhaps it has now just spiralled into a destructive pattern of hatred.

You have no respect for each other and shouldn't be together. It sounds like you both need some kind of urgent anger management counselling.

Please tell me there aren't children observing this and trying to lead their lives?

What would the impact of separating in another country be for you both?

caipirinha · 22/01/2011 08:07

no, I know it isn't acceptable to hit him, but I am 5 foot nothing and him over 6 feet and muscular. I hit him out of sheer frustration, he had an affair when we had everything going for us. why? we have babies, I know it is wrong, but they are tiny and don't witness anything. but I know the atmosphere is bad, even for tiny children. :( I don't know how to leave here. It isn't as easy as being home. I have no support network.

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whoknowswhatthefutureholds · 22/01/2011 08:10

can you come home?

DeidreBarlow · 22/01/2011 08:12

Where are you?

caipirinha · 22/01/2011 08:13

I have nothing to come home to. He made me sell everything; my home, car, furniture etc. I also have no close family there anyway. I have friends. but they are all over the place, I don't know where I would go

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Binfullofmaggotsonthe45 · 22/01/2011 08:13

Size isn't an excuse, I have come across some small women in my time who are very strong and aggressive.
It doesn't sound like self defines but more like frustration?

Why are you unable to come home? Even for a short stay to get away from the situation? Where are your friends/ family?

Binfullofmaggotsonthe45 · 22/01/2011 08:14

Defense not defines

caipirinha · 22/01/2011 08:14

I am in the US. I have more family here than at home now.

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DeidreBarlow · 22/01/2011 08:17

Is the violence constant or just when it came out about the affairiyswim?

You need to decide what you want to happen. Do you still love him? If so then some serious counselling is needed - would he be up for that?

If you can't move on from the affair it will eat at you. Your children will grow up and see the hatred you have for him, is there no-one where you are that you can confide in?

caipirinha · 22/01/2011 08:17

It isn't self defense, I admit I started it, but he had an affair. I cannot believe just how angry it makes me. I am not constantly aggressive, but I am just so unhappy. I did come home, but even that is difficult. I feel like an outsider everywhere I am.

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RealityIsKnockedUp · 22/01/2011 08:22

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caipirinha · 22/01/2011 08:24

I punch him, usually about the body, he started just restraining me, but has given me black eyes twice. when he is drunk. he is quite a heavy drinker

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caipirinha · 22/01/2011 08:25

I drink quite a bit too. I just want to numb everything.

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caipirinha · 22/01/2011 08:29

I sound really rough and quite nasty, but to the outside world I am not like that at all. It is hard to admit to this, even in the anonymity of a forum. Thank you for listening.

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DeidreBarlow · 22/01/2011 08:36

I think his affair has shattered your self confidence and you are hitting him as you are angry at what he has done.

Was there any violence before the affair?

caipirinha · 22/01/2011 08:39

no, not on either part. I hate that he had an affair. I loved him so much and feel such a fool. everyone knew and he still watched me give up my whole life to join him.

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DeidreBarlow · 22/01/2011 08:41

What did he say about the affair and how does he feel now about your relationship? Was it a one night thing or was it over a few weeks/months?

I'm sorry that you are going through this.

caipirinha · 22/01/2011 08:46

it lasted a year, He came here 4 months before me and it continued for a while until I discovered it. he swings between remorse and seemingly not giving a shit.

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waterrat · 22/01/2011 08:48

I'm sorry for you being in this situation Caipirinha, it must be really frightening.

Firstly - rather than dwelling on the wrongs and rights of what did what, I think you need to look at immediate protection of yourself and your sanity. If the US is your home and where your family is, are there people/ friends you can go and stay with?

It's not acceptable that he cheated on you or hit you - but you need to remove yourself from this situation because it has broken down.

You can deal later with questions about the affair etc but clearly the two of you need space apart.

Of course it's not good that you hit him but you have to ask what drove you to it. THen deal with that.

DeidreBarlow · 22/01/2011 08:50

If he doesn't give a shit at times he's probably not all that sorry. Just sorry he got caught out.

Do you want to stay with him though? I know you feel very isolated right now but leaving maybe the best option for you all in the long term.

caipirinha · 22/01/2011 08:56

thank you for your time and kind words.
I do keep 'running away' to stay with family and friends, here and in the UK, but coming back is hard.
I don't know if I want him stll. I was so excited about moving here but cannot believe how horribly it all turned out. you are so right. I don't have any respect for him anymore.

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Longtalljosie · 22/01/2011 09:22

I really was terrible, but it still isn't acceptable for him to hit me is it?

It sounds to me like you are excusing your own violent behaviour. You shouldn't.

How violent were you to your husband? How violent was he to you? Have either of you ever been violent before?

StuffingGoldBrass · 22/01/2011 12:32

This relationship is over, it is harming both of you. Two violent drunks in the same house is a horrible situation and very bad for the children. You're the one posting so you presumably have a little more motivation to change the situation, so the best thing you can do is start working out a practical plan for one of you to move out of the house and divide the assets.

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