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Cheating, Lying... I cant sleep some advice please.

26 replies

weasymeatsix · 14/01/2011 22:51

My boyfriend of 9 months has been cheating on me. I first caught him cheating 2 months into our relationship. i have been cheated on several times in the past so i have issues with trust. he was meant to meet me for a night out and he didnt turn up. his phone was off all night and most of the next day. he arrived at my flat the next again night and said he was in bed all day ill. he went for a shower so i checked his phone and found loads of messages from another woman that he had spent the night with the night before. i really lost it with him and was so angry. he just stood there and said nothing - no apology or anything. the next again day he said he was sorry and he would delete her number and that he was happy with me and didnt want to end our relationship over a silly mistake.

i believed him. our relationship went downhill after that and we rarely have sex. maybe once a month no matter how hard i try it on. ever since he cheated ive been really suspicious and stuff and in november i looked at his phone again. i found messages from the same woman askin if he got home ok etc. i realised i have been stupid because this has obviously carried on for the amount of time we have been together. i stayed calm this time and explained to him that he had to now choose between me and her and that if he chose me he would delete and block her phone number and let me have her number which i now have. he still hasnt blocked her number though and has put passcode locks on both his mobile phones. its now january and things arent much better. i love him but i get the feeling that its not mutual. i dont trust him at all and im still sure he is cheatin on me. i lie awake at night every single night wondering what he is doing, who he is with or if he is going to leave me. i have told him i love him but he has never said it back to me. im 22 and he is 35. the woman he was cheating with is 42 and not exactly beautiful so that made me feel even worse. she is twice my age and has 3 kids who are the same age as me. i know most red blooded males would like sex all the time but he has no interest in it whatsoever. this makes me even more suspicious because hes not sleeping with me so i think he must be getting it somewhere else. i thought it was maybe because im overweight and he didnt fancy me but the other woman is twice the size of me and looks like a pig on crack. seriously.

i should probarbly end the relationship but i have no confidence at all and i hate confrontation so im too scared to speak to him about any of this. i have no idea where to start even if i was going to. i am pretty certain there is another woman on the scene now too...his boss who is also in her 40s. his face lights up when she phones him and he talks about her all the time - i dont even think he realises how much he goes on about her. its beginning to bother me because from what ive heard she is a bit of a sl*g. shes slept with a few people from the pub that they work in and likes a drink. my boyfriend also wont let me go to the pub with him when he goes out for a drink there so i think he must have something to hide.

any advice here would be appreciated. especially on how i can start to trust people again and if i should kick him out or not. ive got a 20 month old daughter from a prev rship and he gets on brilliant with her and she loves him to bits. thats whats making it difficult really.

OP posts:
happiestblonde · 14/01/2011 22:55

I am 22, you are 22 - DO NOT STAND FOR THIS. He is a lying, cheating, manipulative bastard who is taking advantage of you and ruining your life. No matter how low your self esteem is, he is making it worse. LEAVE HIM, he is an absolute knob. You are so much better than this and you are so very young, please leave.

atswimtwolengths · 14/01/2011 22:57

What exactly do you love about him?

What about the way your stomach is in knots, do you love that?

Do you love feeling really sick when you discover a new betrayal?

Do you love feeling like a fool when you realise he's still in touch with her?

Do you love knowing that he blames you for not wanting him sexually, when, whenever you think about sex, you think about him with other women?

This man is a real catch, isn't he?

weasymeatsix · 14/01/2011 23:01

you guys are completely right im gonna have a talk with him tonight when he finishes work and end things.

i suppose i just like the idea of having someone there and im allowing him to treat me like crap. i do everything for him and i get nothing in return

its time to finish it ill be better off on my own. its only when ive written it down in words i realise that its a pointless relationship

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happiestblonde · 14/01/2011 23:05

Leave him. You will be fine. He is damaging you and making you deeply unhappy - you will be far, far happier without him. I promise.

ILovedYou · 14/01/2011 23:17

You do not need a huge confrontation.

Get rid.

Gather his stuff text him.
Ask him to collect stuff and with chain on door just say i dont want you in my life anymore.

If i find any other belongings of yours i will text you and leave them in a bag outside.

You will feel amazing!

The longer this piece of shit abuses you - because you let him - because before you met him you had very low self esteem - the deeper the damage will become.

BIN AND WIN!

22 years old is nothing gal.

I am 36 and have made mistakes with men. I wish i was more assertive and happier at your age. I made bad choices via being low in myself. Abstain from sex and having any kind of relationship.

Pay privately for therapy or ask your GP about it.

Do something or next time the man you think loves you might make you a domestic violence statistic.

Forge a life for yourslef with therapy.

As Cheryl would say YOU ARE WORTH IT
I say you deserve happiness, TRUE happiness and control of your won destiny.

Imagine that?

Good luck x

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 14/01/2011 23:30

Get rid of him obviously, but honestly, have a serious think about how you view your fellow women because there are statements in your OP that make me cringe. You also need to realise that men are not up for sex all of the time, they are human beings just like you and me.

Give men a break for a while and enjoy being single.

BecauseImWorthIt · 14/01/2011 23:33

You have only been with him for 9 months, and he was cheating on you from pretty much the beginning of your relationship. Your DD is tiny and won't remember him.

Get rid. He does not love you, does not respect you and is doing nothing for your self esteem.

BecauseImWorthIt · 14/01/2011 23:35

I would also suggest, very seriously, that you try and find some counselling to help you improve your own self esteem. The fact that you would even consider not dealing with this because you like having someone around is really sad. You are worth so, so much more than that.

MyBrilliantCareer · 14/01/2011 23:42

Honestly you have your whole life ahead of you. Get rid of him - he is never ever going to do anything but make you miserable.

Also, I agree with getting some therapy to give you the strength to create the life you want. Give yourself a year or two with a therapist and your DD and yourself.

It will help you learn to love yourself, and myabe give you a more gracious view of your fellow women - I agree with WWIFN's post about that.

ChippingIn · 14/01/2011 23:46

You lost any sympathy you might have had when you said 'she looks like a pig on crack'

Frankly, with that kind of attitude to another woman you deserve all you get.

msboogie · 15/01/2011 00:28

People (men) will only treat you like shit as long as you let them. You should have binned him the very first time you caught him. He is never ever going to change - why would he? He totally gets away with it.

You don't need a confrontation to dump this slag - you don't even need to do him the courtesy of a face to face dumping. Just text him "bye bye".

You seriously seriously need to sort out your self esteem so that you can get treated with respect..

scaryhairycat · 15/01/2011 00:48

"choose between me and her" - please don't go there again - I know you have subsequently posted you realise you need to end this, but so many women change their minds/become convinced that it won't happen again when it comes to the crunch - he won't change. Kick him to the kurb and enjoy the rest of your life cheat-free! Wink

happiestblonde · 15/01/2011 00:56

chippingin - entirely unnecessary. OP is young and dealing with an absolute auto-eroticist of a P, leave her alone.

You should never have to ask someone to choose, if anyone is worth your love they will always want you there won't be a contest.

Please leave and look after yourself. Where are you based do you need someone to talk to in RL?

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proudnscaryvirginmary · 15/01/2011 09:34

I think Chippingin has more than a fair point! I agree totally with her comment.

Look OP, you are with a good for nothing man who cheats on you, doesn't want to be seen with you, has no respect for you...what on earth do you think anyone can say to you other than have some self respect and get out of this awful 'relationship'.

Katerlina · 15/01/2011 09:42

I'm afraid I agree with ChippingIn and Needa..

you can't go around blaming and criticising these other women when you yourself are letting this idiot walk all over you - and for what? The drama? Being able to say 'I have a boyfriend'?

Get rid of him, and get some counselling. You need to understand that these women probably don't know about you either - or if they do, they certainly don't see you as a problem, do they? So what else does that say about your 'boyfriend' and how he talks about you?

Time to cut this tumour out of your life with as little fuss as possible - pack his stuff and tell him to go, no discussion required.

coodles · 15/01/2011 18:53

You have received good advice, will you act on it?

weasymeatsix · 16/01/2011 19:03

i have finished with him. i just packed all his stuff and told him it was at my front door. he just picked it up and ive never heard from him at all just like i thought would happen.

as for my comments about the other woman - she knew all about me so she is just as much to blame. at her age she should know better than to get involved with a man who is already in a relationship.

thanks for the advice

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chakalaka · 16/01/2011 19:24

I had to respond to this. I was like you. Except I didn't listen to any advice that others gave me. You sound as if you have more sense than me! I spent over 6 years with someone who completely destroyed me (the same behaviour that your bf is displaying now). Please please don't waste a minute more on this man. You do deserve better and you will find better, trust me, I promise you will find better. If you learn anything in your life it's not to allow anyone into your life who makes you feel this unhappy. Good luck and I hope you make the right decision.

chakalaka · 16/01/2011 19:24

sorry too late!

LazyParenting · 16/01/2011 19:34

I, at 22 was clueless, so I think that has to be taken into account here, perhaps some gentle steering in the right direction of how to look at this situation.

  1. You are only 22.
  2. You have only been with him 9 months.
  3. She is not in a relationship with you, he is.
  4. Wipe the dust of this ridiculous man, who didn't even APOLOGISE to you when you caught him out from your heels and move forwards.
  5. As for your dd, how brilliant for her to see from early on how to have a healthy and decent relationship or NOT, because btw it is not compulsory to be in one and to be learning to value herself just like her Mum does, ie not putting up with this arsewipe of a human being.

Blimey I wish I had had someone to tell me this at the age of 22, instead of all the women I knew bleating at me about how you have to "work at relationships".

AnyFucker · 16/01/2011 20:08

I am glad you have dumped the tosser

However, I agree with the others who have expressed dismay at the way you speak of other women

you sound very young (minded), and I am going to very patronising now

one day you too will be "42 with 3 kids" and some snotty 22yo will wonder why any man would ever want to sleep with you

so have a think abou that, and about the kind of man you let into your life and whether they should take the blame for cheating on their partner

AttillaTheMum · 16/01/2011 20:20

Although she didn't come across as at all articulate and he wording was far from kind I don't think that the OP was being cruel.

I think she was reacting to hurt and lashing out at the other woman because she felt envious.

OP - I am really glad you left him. PLease don't go back. I wasted years on a man who was the same, move on and meet a nice man who can be a faithful partner and a good role model for your child.

molemesseskilledIpom · 16/01/2011 20:51

Get rid, you are not happy with him and your DD will be fine. Life is too short for wasting time. Get back out there and move on. He obviously has.