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Am I right?

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wendihouse22 · 26/12/2010 22:03

I've had a row with my mum. Actually, over 2 weeks ago now. Usually, after we've had words I call to smooth things over but this time, I haven't. Christmas has come and gone and still, I haven't picked up the phone. I should say, I sent a card but she hasn't acknowledged it. (could be the post!)

I have one sister who lives miles away and my mum doesn't see much of her because of the distance. I live about an hour or so away so, have been the one to visit in the past few years after my step dad died. My mum has, over the years, alienated various friends and family. So, she is quite isolated and won't go to others (and rarely visits me) which leaves her on her own much of the time.

We argued about my ex and his access to our only son (aged 10 with autism). My mum feels I should stop visitation as my ex doesn't put him first, lives a 2hour + journey away and is generally hopeless in her opinion. But, I have said no. My opinion is that my ex is still his dad and they need a relationship now and for the future. I'm aware that at 48 yrs old with a 10yr old disabled son, I won't be around forever to look after him and so, as an only child, his dad (for better or worse) is his best hope.

My mum said I only want to "get rid of" my son every other weekend so that I can "have a break". My son is, admittedly very hard to deal with at times. The school staff have commented that they wonder how I manage with him. We get no help; no respite; I have never had a baby sitter; my son rarely leaves the house and I am his carer. And that's as it should be.

My ex sees his son 3 or 4 nights a month. I don't think that's much.

She said some awful things. Asked me "I suppose you'll just dump him in a special school and forget about him?" This, because I have recently had to view a special secondary school, having been told by his mainstream primary that he won't survive mainstream secondary. I struggle every day with guilt, worry for his future and sadness for the way he struggles every single day.

I should add that my mum and I have (as many mothers and daughters do) a long and chequered past relationship !! I was let down by her as a child and she has since told me that she feels guilty for that. She put me in various positions that I would never put my son in. I was to be given to her sister when a baby because my dad refused to have me with the family (my mum, dad and elder sister). He gave in eventually, but ignored me pretty much until I was about 7 or 8yrs. I went to boarding school at age 10, found it very hard and wanted to come home. Her flat refusal was based on what she thought was best for me. It wasn't best for me.

She has also told me that many years ago, she made her will leaving everything to a person that neither myself nor my sister even know. And actually, that's none of my business, it's her money to do with as she wishes but she tells me often she did it when she was angry with me and now regrets it, though has no intention of changing it.

I'm confused. I hate to fall out and as I say usually make the first move but this time, I just feel beyond it all.

Any advice?

Sorry it's sooooo long!

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pinksancerre · 26/12/2010 22:26

Didn't want to leave this unanswered and tbh I am quite shocked by the way you have been treated by your mum! She can have an opinion about your son and his care, but she should support you as her daughter and it sounds like you are doing a fab job and you are doing what you think is best.
Is your mum likely to make the first move? Depends whether you want this to go on. Sometimes it is better to be the bigger person. Make the move but make your point.

anothermum92 · 26/12/2010 22:39

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msboogie · 26/12/2010 22:45

Jesus Christ. You sound like a brilliant mother doing the very best for her child in difficult circumstances. Why give a second thought to the opinions of a woman who is incapable of this? why on earth?

wendihouse22 · 27/12/2010 11:56

Thanks ladies.

I should say that my ex IS pretty hopeless in lots of ways. He often does the opposite of what we're advised in the care of his son. He has "lost" him several times and has had him brought back to him by some well meaning stranger. He left when our son was 4yrs old, a matter of weeks following his autism diagnosis. Needless to say, it was a dreadful time. And he insists on blaming ME for how our son "is" despite the professionals' viewpoint. My ex never came to appointments but now INSISTS on being at every one which I resent, having done it on my own this far! I detest him but put on a smiley front most of the time, for the sake of our son. So, I understand my mum's viewpoint but, we have no other relatives and frankly, my son's little world is small enough!!

My mum won't make the first move. It's always me.

But anothermum92, you're quite right, I've so much on my plate right now. I can't face it.....will probably let some time go by.

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Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 27/12/2010 12:01

it sounds to me like both your ex and your mum are unsupportive, unhelpful, toxic people. Blaming your for your son's diagnosis, losing him, etc., is just appalling. But how dare your mother imply that you don't care about your son and are just trying to dump him? That's awful, awful, awful.

I'd consider whether you think it's safe for your son to spend time with your ex - and you've obviously done that. And i'd also keep my distance from your mum, and see if you can find a way to assert boundaries, because that is just Not On.

IAmReallyFabNow · 27/12/2010 12:03

I can't put what I feel into words so will just say I think you are a lovely mum and your son is very lucky to have you. If you feel your ex is a possible influence in your sons life then of course you are right to have him be involved.

LoveBeingADaddysGirl · 27/12/2010 12:05

Your mum I think is projecting her angry and guilt regarding your childhood. She is also jealous that you are a mum better mum and would never do what she did.

Do you want to see/speak to her or just feel you should?

electra · 27/12/2010 12:17

You know, I could have written that post, wendihouse. My mum uses almost identical language when she criticises me, which she does all the time. Because for some reason she thinks she has the right to do that.

I even have a similar situation as you in that I also have a 9 year old with autism, like you I'm trying to figure out what would be best for her as she gets older and my mum says similar stuff to me regarding this as what you have to put up with.

In the last 10 years I've realised my mother is not a healthy influence in my life but she still has the power to hurt me and try to undermine the person I am.

So you have my sympathies....

anothermum92 · 27/12/2010 14:45

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AnyFuckerisFucked · 27/12/2010 15:09

what a fantastic mum you sound

you do what you think is right...but I do wonder whether the brand of "support" you get from your own mother is worth having at all...

wendihouse22 · 27/12/2010 19:31

Hearing what's being said and know that you are right in your conclusion of the situation.

I too wonder what I get from the relationship. It would probably be easier to leave well alone and if she contacts me, it will be on my terms ie. ..."I appreciate your concern mum, but actually, I'm doing my best here, and since there's no one else, it's the best that can be done..."

It's funny though, that at 48 I believe her when she tells me how hopeless I am and how she could have done better. I KNOW that's not true. I'd like her to take some time to look back on the things she's done where my sister and myself are concerned, and accept that she didn't always do the right thing. Don't get me wrong, I don't want her wearing a hair vest and beating herself up over stuff, just looking at how she's got to be 70 and utterly alone and look at her two daughters and think "considering what they've had in their lives, they're both pretty good girls". That won't EVER happen.

I'm doing nothing with this situation right now. I just have to look after myself and my son, as best I can.

As far as my ex is concerned. I grew up without my dad. He died recently and no one let me know. I definitely don't want that for my son.

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wendihouse22 · 27/12/2010 19:40

You've all been lovely by the way. Thanks so muck to you.

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wendihouse22 · 27/12/2010 19:51

That would be "Thanks so MUCH to you" !!

Also will look up that book "Toxic Parents".

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LoveBeingADaddysGirl · 28/12/2010 08:16

I believe that you can asp find stuff on narsasistic women/mothers.

dollius · 28/12/2010 08:54

The fact your mum seems to focus heavily on the idea that you are "dumping" your son with your ex, I would say this is all about her and the fact that she did precisely that to you and can't get over it.
The easy thing is to put the blame on to you, otherwise she would have to confront these issues and she is plainly incapable of that.

Why did your dad not want you with the family when you were born?

Where is he now?

wendihouse22 · 28/12/2010 12:17

He died last year, but I didn't find out til a few weeks ago. I tried to find him as an adult but he found it difficult to see me and my sister. He had another family by then. I should add that, I was 16 when my mum and dad got divorced and 18 when they finally but an end to things between them. So, as I grew up he was MY dad. He was a good one often, but he drank heavily.

As a baby, he didn't believe I was his. Then, when I was 8 I needed kidney surgery for a condition which RAN IN HIS SIDE OF THE FAMILY. From that day on, I was the apple of his eye.

But, at 10 I went to boarding school. Got a scholarship to go (we weren't well off) and I was there til aged 18.

As an adult, I felt he was embarrassed about himself. He would say that he didn't want me or my sister to see him "this way". He was often drunk and lived in a very poor area etc. It didn't bother us, but he was quite clear on it.

It's a sad tale.

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