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Please help me - my mother makes me feel I am seven years old. I am 35.

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ChristianaCatesby · 09/12/2010 19:50

I would massively appreciate some advice.

I have never got on brilliantly with my mother who I feel has been disappointed in me, after a very precocious start, I have let her down. I was brought up hearing a lot of criticism, from 'Gosh, it's a shame your hair is curly', 'You're the clever one, your brother is the nice one, he is so nice' to 'you've put on weight haven't you, let's see if you can fit in to my old clothes from when I had ALREADY HAD ONE CHILD' (I'd ballooned to a size eight in my teens)... If I dressed modestly, I was accused of being boring, if I didn't, she said I looked like a tart.

I have had real confidence problems all my life.

My dear father died seven years ago, and I thought that his death might actually be a catalyst to enable us to get on better, my mother and I. However I suffered bad depression after his death and I found it hard even though I supported her financially and emotionally as much as I could. However, my financial support (I had a really well paid job then) has now been turned into how materialistic I was because I bought myself some expensive clothes etc.

Anyway, I lived abroad for a few years with my DH and had my first child. We moved back to the UK and around a year after that my mother met someone new. We decided to move closer to where she lived when my DH was offered a job there. She seemed very excited, had really turned a corner, seemed very supportive.

However, she said she would look after our DD when we went flat hunting. After a week staying with her, hoping perhaps she could look after DD for a few hours maybe, she had all this time refused to. On the penultimate day of our cisit, I mentioned to her it would be really helpful to look after DD for one afternoon so we could confirm which flat we wanted to rent without DD running around, so we could debate rental amounts etc. Again, she refused, in a roundabout way, as she had done all week - ie she was busy, she had something else to do (she often says this after promising to do something). Then she said to her boyfriend that night that we had been demanding and unfair.

Cue the boyfriend, the next day, accusing me of being hideous to my mother, of rejecting their hospitality, of being difficult and demanding. He started shouting at me (he was drunk) and pointing his finger at me, until I was standing in the corner of the room, with him standing over me jabbing his finger in my face (not touching).

I was extremely upset.

Now, two and a half years later we have another DD. We sometimes see my mother but she makes no effort at all with DD1 though seems keen on DD2. DD1 never wants to see her. The stories are long and varied but basically she's not that into us. BUT SHE SAYS TO EVERYONE ELSE THAT SHE IS. And what an amazing grandmother she is etc etc.

I have found it very hard to speak to her boyfriend and as they live an hour and a half away and never invite us that's not usually much of a problem. Often my mother phones me up and says she is going to split up with him, how annoying he is. I stay silent. She then says she's not going to split up with him because she's going on holiday or whatever and needs him to look after the house when she's gone.

This year my DH was made redundant, and has since been suffering from severe depression. We are still getting the meds right, but for example he refuses to see anyone who is not family, and is having a really tough time. As am I, trying to look after the DDs, DH and having really not one penny to rub together. I am trying to get a job but am unsuccessful so far. I am really stressed out.

So, my mother invited us for Christmas saying that her BF would not be there, that he was going to be with his children at his place in town. We said yes, and I thought it would be good for the DDs to be in the countryside with a lovely tree etc. However, after a few strange conversations on the phone, and much prodding from us, she has decided that I have just 'got to get over it' and that her boyfriend was going to be there. I don't want to go now, I feel betrayed. I don't want to be around him.

My mother makes me feel awful about me. I feel so childish and silly but I DO NOT WANT TO BE AROUND HIM. I also know my mother makes me feel like a pile of shit but I did think I could try to overlook it in order to give my children a good Christmas. But I don't know what to do. I am looking for any advice please.

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ChristianaCatesby · 12/12/2010 15:28

Thank you everyone.

You have made me feel like I am not mad or bad. I know this, I know I am a good person and a good mother and even a good daughter but as you say belle I've never been complimented either and she certainly doesn't think I am great.

The last forty eight hours have been something of a revelation for me. More examples keep flooding my mind of broken promises. What amazes me is that I always fall for it! I always think, this time it will be different.

Like my wedding. My mother said she wanted to pay for it, as it is what my father would have wanted. I planned a very very inexpensive wedding, well it came in at about £3000 for the whole thing which I don't think was tooooo bad. I sent all the invitations as 'Mrs x invites you to Christiana's wedding' etc. Guess what, she never paid. She asked how much it had cost and then said I was ridiculous to have thought she would pay for anything apart from the food, and because I'd made such a ridiculous assumption, she wasn't going to pay for the food either.

You're all right. Next time she makes a promise she'll break it. It won't be different. I need to grieve.

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BelleBelicious · 12/12/2010 16:46

wow, christiana - that with the wedding. how horrible. In her defence, I would say that your mother is mentally ill. Please understand that. No matter how 'good' you are, she will never love you as a mother should love her child. Not unless she seeks help - and I doubt that she would do that now.

I wonder if you have already started grieving? Having a same sex child often brings up issues with your own childhood (i.e. a woman having a daughter; a man a son). Perhaps the PND was part of the cycle?

Anyway, I hope the next year brings you much more happiness. You have 2 wonderful daughters, and you sound like an amazing, kind person.

GettinganIcyGrip · 12/12/2010 17:35

OP have a look at this site .

I think you will probably find your mother there.

Sadly if this is her, you can only ever have a superficial relastionship with her, for your own and your chidlren's sake. She is just not capable of anything else. I know, I have one of my own.

ChristianaCatesby · 13/12/2010 21:11

My goodness yes, my mother is there. Jeez that's it icy grip

I think of more and more every day and I can clearly see her motivations in almost everything she does

Am still feeling nervous about Christmas though and telling her that we're not coming

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FakePlasticTrees · 13/12/2010 21:23

Does DH have family you can be visiting if your family ask why you aren't seeing your mother?

Focus on your DDs and your DH.

stringerbell · 13/12/2010 21:31

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Jennylee · 13/12/2010 22:23

I found my mother there! Ishe let slip a few weeks ago that they are leaving everything to my brother as he si a vulnerable criminal zombie who need it...I have tried to be good al my life, never got there though aaarghh! on the upside i think me and my sister will ahve very good grounds for contesting it under scittihs law :)

ChristianaCatesby · 14/12/2010 06:03

Ha! Well my Dh told her last night. She said it was 'fine' as she 'hadn't planned anything anyway'

I should have known... Confused

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/12/2010 07:11

Hi Christina,

Congratulations on getting the job!.

This is good news indeed re your toxic mother so you can stay at home and have a nice Christmas with your own family.

Stuff feeling guilty as you really have no need. Your mother has never felt an ounce of remorse, empathy (narcissists have no empathy) or compassion for you. She sees you as competition and people are possessions to be used and abused. She likely has a very grandiose view of the world.

No cure for NPD I am sorry to say. The only thing you can do is keep away from narcissists and going no contact.

She will harm your children emotionally given the opportunity and she has already started choosing one child over the other. Listen to your eldest, she has good reason not to want to see this person.

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