Can anyone give me an idea of social services veiw on this please

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OK couple had three children and seperated. Children stayed with their mother. Dad tried to keep involved but had a dire relationship with mother, they can't speak to each other without screaming.
Police were called to mothers house last year and children were taken into care for 6 months. Consideration was given to them going to live with dad but they ended up going back to mum and being put on the at risk register.
Mum had got them back on the understanding that she had been given a new house by the council (she had trashed previous one). This was 6 months ago, she has now been evicted from the property twice as the council didn't actually give her the house, she bought the keys from previous occupant.
She asked their dad to take them while she sorts herself out. Dad has a new relationship and another child in two bed house. Keeps one of the three children and passes two on to grandparents.
They have now been there two weeks and grandparents have had no contact from social services.
Questions - why would social services not investigate seing as kids are on at risk register? Can the mum just turn up and demand the kids back?
Sorry this is so long, this is actually the abbreviated version!

Anyone?

No idea, sorry, but couldn't read your thread without posting to let you know you aren't just being ignored. Maybe people are seeing 'social services opinion' and not clicking because they aren't social workers?

Do the grandparents want to keep the kids? Or help the father to provide suitable accommodation for them? I'd phone NSPCC for advice - not sure if they can help but they might give you some general rules?

Thanks for that, never gave the NSPCC a thought.
Father is trying to find alternative accommodation.

what about parent line(think thats whats it's called, or phone social worker at your local council and ask them, sorry not much help, but hope it works out ok for you

If the father or the grandparents want the kids, they need to see a solicitor urgently.

Thankyou Irishbird. I know the dad has had conversations with social services. He doesn't have parental rights as they were born before the law changed and mum and dad weren't married.
I am very concerned about the children but am removed from the situation.

Thanks all.

You can ring the Emergency Duty Team and tell them what is happening. I think it might be anonymous if you want it to be. Or try your council's website - they will have a social services section which will tell you how to get in contact if you think the children are at risk. Sounds to me like they just don't know, or they think that the children are being adequately cared for.

I'm not a social worker but I work for a social services department sorting out their website, so do know a little bit.

Sorry, should have said the Emergency Duty Team is part of Social services.

Social services don't care about children like that. They are too busy taking them away from people who do and can care from them.
My dh's ex had 3 armed drug raids, her house trashed by her boyfriend on a drunken rampage, at least 2 children permanently excluded from school and at least one with an asbo and when my dh called social services to express concern about the welfare of his children, he was told that he was a vindictive ex and that there was nothing they could do and they refused even to make an offcial report.
From my experience, as long as mum keeps asking for the chidlren back, she will keep getting them.

ye ring the emrgency duty team. i think i have the number for kent (sorry dont know where you are, but they might have the number for other areas!)it is in the front of your yellow pages usually.

Dad and grandparents need to contact social services and a solicitor

SofiaAmes your H heart must bloody ache, honestly - every post i read about his ex makes me angry

Ache is an understatement. He too was failed by the system as a child, so as he is aching, I am just furious and a complete non believer in the social services system in the uk.

As an ex foster child I suppose you could say I do have experience. (been in and out of foster care since I was 5, lived with 12 different families altogether). If you think these children are being injusticed (if that's the right word) then you should call social services yourself (anon of course if you prefer). Social Services HAVE to investigate the situation. From what you say it's obvious the mother is not fit to take care of these children at the moment (if ever) if she can't even keep a roof over their head. Although I understand it is horrid to be seperated from their mother these children need to be staying in a safe, secure place. If the father is interested in taking the children back then he should speak up and let social services know...and with the support of his new partner Social Services will give the idea a look in. They would certainly rather a child lived with it's natural parent (either one) than send them to foster homes! Hope this helps.

thanks chozen. Unfortunately, social services refused to take an anonymous report at the time and said that would "have to tell the mother who made the report." We knew that the mother would only torture the children mentally and never let dh see them again if she found out he had called ss. And it seemed fairly clear that ss had no interest in taking the kids away, so we decided that at least dh did get to see the kids occasionally in the current situation and it wasn't worth risking ss doing nothing but telling ex that dh had made the call. We even consulted with a lawyer regarding dh getting custody of his children and we were told that unless the mother actually harmed them herself, it was extremely unlikely that they would be taken away from her and given to dh, especially because he had a full time job and would not be in the house all day looking after them. what a system!!!

by the way, sorry to hear about your childhood chozen. It always makes my heart break to hear about people who didn't get the love and care they deserved as children. I only hope that, like my dh (with our 2 children), you are now getting to make up for it with your own children.