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Is his orgasm more important than mine?

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PoppyField · 23/11/2010 14:55

Me and DH have been going through what seems like a prolonged rough patch. Married 10 years, two children in the space of two years after years of trying and IVF horrors. It now feels as if he's been in a bad mood since DC2 was born 21 months ago.

Sex has never been fabulous, but we had a good time. Infertility certainly took the shine off it, and it became perfunctory. Can't think of the last time we were wild and carefree in bed.

I've always been upfront about wanting an orgasm when we have sex and have never felt particularly bad about 'helping myself along' manually. I suppose it did disappoint me somewhat that he didn't feel too bothered about my satisfaction. On the other hand, of course, orgasm has to be the end point for him. Isn't that the whole point of it for most men? 'It's alright if she doesn't have one, but I've got to haven't I?' seems to be the general message. Foreplay diminished to pretty non-existent and again, I missed that but didn't say anything as I didn't want to appear critical.

So we don't do it at all now. It turns out (when we were trying to have a grown-up conversation about what was going wrong in our relationship) that he felt that I 'pressured' him into sex last time we did it six months ago and that has turned him off it. I was really insulted and felt upset but I didn't let him see that - I don't want to get into a competition for who is most offended by the other one. Still, I felt it was really below the belt and knocked my confidence. The accusation was unjust and unfair. It made me pull away from him and I haven't sought any affection from him at all. He hasn't given me any affection for ages and it makes me so sad. I feel so lonely.

Then last weekend - another 'chat' - he accused me of being selfish in bed, that I had only cared about my orgasm and that me masturbating really put him off and that's why he didn't want to have sex with me. He said it in such a nasty way it makes me cry. It is just so hurtful to hear him say things like that. It feels like he's kicking me. I've never felt very confident about my sexual skills on a man - I've always asked him what he wanted, but never successfully managed to give him a blowjob despite being up for tuition or guidance - now I feel incredibly rejected and an also angry, I mean, Why wouldn't you want an orgasm when you're having sex - doesn't everybody.

So I did defend myself and say 'Isn't your orgasm important to you? Aren't you keen on having one when you're having sex? So surely the same can go for me? Your orgasm is important to you isn't it?' And when thus challenged he said 'No, not really, no!' Yeah right. Liar liar pants on fire.

So can someone tell me, what can I do? Sex wasn't great and going downhill anyway, but I would never have insulted his performance just because I would think that would be cruel. Anyway now he's done that to me and it does feel cruel. As much as feeling insulted, I feel terribly sad that he feels able to be cruel to me and to crush me without care of my feelings. I always thought he was caring towards me, even when everything else was crumbling. Maybe now that's crumbling too.

Perhaps there is room for a new start here. Maybe we can have a sexual Ground Zero and start watching Lovers' Guides and have a new dawn together. But that seems unlikely, given what seems like a new low in our relationship. I feel lonely and sad about him. He is supposed to care about me and I feel completely unloved. Which makes it so very difficult for me to love him.

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fuzzpig · 09/04/2012 09:34

I'd never seen this thread at the time, but read it not realising that it was an old one. I am very glad to see the conclusion.

Sorry he wasn't what you deserved him to be. But - onwards and upwards :)

SorryMyLollipop · 09/04/2012 09:40

Poppyfield, what a great update. MN truly is fabulous Grin

Without it, and the fantastic feedback, from posters such as those you have mentioned, I too would still be stuck in a miserable EA marriage, instead of happily separated and looking forward to being unmarried.

I am so pleased for you (and me!)

SGB/AF etc, we love you Thanks Thanks

AKissIsNotAContract · 09/04/2012 09:50

This thread has made me miss dittany, glad to see your conclusion, I remember reading it at the time.

ImperialBlether · 09/04/2012 11:47

I read through all of this thinking it was a current problem and am so happy for you, OP! You could have been here two years on, still unhappy, but instead you tackled the problem and are now happy. You're fantastic!

midwife99 · 09/04/2012 12:04

Yes me too - I read the first few posts before I noticed the date & flipped messages to see the end! I'm also really pleased you feel so good now which is inspiring!

I've been having a similar experience the last 2 years & mumsnetters like anyfucker have been fab with their advice & I've also been inspired by chocoraisin, geordieminx & cwtchy who have risen above expartners' fuckwittery. Things have improved ALOT but I have changed my whole attitude & am now strong enough & perfectly ready to end it if there is even one recurrence of said shite & in fact did recently "rehouse" him temporarily! Good luck for the future - I know you're going to be really happy!! Grin

fiventhree · 09/04/2012 14:36

Midwife, same here!

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