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1st ever relationship.. not good... (long)

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dodgyinnit · 14/11/2010 02:30

I am currently working with a male colleague who has just met his first ever girlfriend and first sexual relationship. He is 20 and she is 18. The environment we are currently in is complicated but lets just say its a lot of people away from home and predominately male orientated.

He is absolutely over the moon at having lost his virginity and its all he had ever wanted 'better than he could have ever wished for' his words.. He thinks and absolutely believes that this relationship will be forever.

Now myself and the other colleagues who work beside him are far older and far more cynical worldy wise. We all beleive he will have his rite of passage and move on once his time here has come to and end, she will remain for some time after he leaves.

Now the worry we all have is that he is being played for an absolute fool, yes we all tease him about finally popping the cherry etc.. but we are essentially concerned that he will be unecessarily hurt.

Last night there was a party, i was not present but have been told all about it, it was a small party of 5 males and this 18 year old. A card game of strip was started and she wholeheartedly joined in. The result was her ending up in just her pants and the other males (including the boyfriend) in various states of undress.
In her undressed state she was egging the guys on and leaving no room for misinterpretation, inviting a possible group sex situation.

The party ended on that note thankfully as the other males quickly realised this had possibly went far enough. The boyfriend was way out of his depth and didnt quite know how to react. I have spoken to him today about it and he admitted that he just didnt know how he should be feeling, should he be upset or is it just part of her personality to be a bit outrageous/flamboyant?

I personally think she is to be avoided at all costs and that she will hurt him awfully. No matter how much she appears to be 'Miss Sweetness and Light.

There are 2 sides to this though, i have no loyalty to this girl but being a female myself i feel she is treading dangerously and the party situation could have had so many different outcomes, if that behaviour is normal to her then i find that worrying and if im honest in this environment completely terrifying.

The other side to it is we all feel she is making a fool out of my colleague who is blinded by her behaviour and completely accepting of everything because he wants to be the 'perfect' boyfriend, he is utterly clueless about women and readily admits this.

So do we as his colleagues try and speak to him to finish with her? Do we let it run and help him when it goes bad? Have a quiet word with her about appropriate behaviour? or none of the above and just keep our big beaks out?

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dodgyinnit · 14/11/2010 05:22

pondering name change to doggy GrinGrin

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ReformedCharacter · 14/11/2010 05:27

Aw, that's ok dodgy. I hope everything works out for the best for both of them.

G'night Smile

TechLovingDad · 14/11/2010 06:14

I'm mean but BoF wasn't? Hmm, ok.

Anyway, I sse that OP IS going to back off, so I was right all along Grin.

I'm sure he'll be fine, if he gets hurt hopefully he'll know better for next time.

ReformedCharacter · 14/11/2010 06:58

BOF didn't continue to post though Tech.

When I said you were being mean I was referring to these two comments:

"And most of the opinions have been "you should back off", but you've chosen to ignore them"

and

"You seem overly obsessed with this man's relationship."

I haven't asked about her behaviour because I don't care about either of them."

Dodgy was gracious in all her replies and acknowledged everything that was said.

Anyway, glad you're so obviously happy to be right Hmm

dodgyinnit · 14/11/2010 10:26

Heehee RC you make me smile Grin

I wish i was up there in the ivory tower with TLD preening, oh what joy she he must get daily with being a smartarse right all the time Hmm

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Xales · 14/11/2010 10:39

Complete side issue to the 20 year old no ex virgin but....

I have to agree with Reformed on the strip poker.

Do men generally play strip poker when it is all men?

It was a party, I assume alcohol was involved.

However they all strip along with an 18 year old girl (alone with a bunch of them) getting down to just her panties yet she is the one who 'joined in wholeheartedly'.

What about the 5 or so men?? Were they forced? Not happy to join in and get down to various states of undress???

Bollocks were they but she is still the slapper the exhibitionist and the extrovert.

thelightsareon · 14/11/2010 12:49

Dodgy a relative of mine has been in the situation and environment that you describe. Their advice is to keep an eye on your male colleague and be there when it all goes to hell. Likewise - keep an eye on her because her behaviour has an effect on everyone.

Like others have said, you can't really get too involved in people's lives. I do appreciate, though, that your situation is somewhat unusual and more intense that I am ever likely to experience personally. So - keep a distant eye on him/them and be there for the end.. or indeed to intervene if anything has too much of an impact on your work.

emmyloulou · 14/11/2010 13:05

I can guess what job it is you do...and I think you should be more concerned about the older "should" know better men who were the good part in your eyes as they called it off.

They could be still in very deep shit if ther superiors find out about it, and then know you have plastered it on the net anonymous or not and I wouldn't polish their relationship advice halos if they have partners at home neither.

Before lecturing the female about her behaviour, I'd have a word with your male colleagues, they are equally as bad.

Casmama · 14/11/2010 13:14

I agree with others that you probably need to stay out of it. However, if this man directly asks for your advice it would be disingenous not to say that you are concerned that she may not be as serious as he is an that you would tread carefully in his position or some such advice. Only if directly asked for your opinion though.

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