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Advice from those in happy longterm relationship

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peeweewee · 18/10/2010 20:51

What are your top tips about getting yourself into a loving, longterm relationship?

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hellymelly · 18/10/2010 22:48

Getting into one?-Luck and more luck.Staying in one?-A black sense of humour,really wanting a relationship that will last,and kindness goes an awfully long way.My DH is fundamentally kind,that is his default setting,that and his innate common sense have got us through an awful lot.(15 years,married for seven).

peeweewee · 18/10/2010 22:50
Smile
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happiestblonde · 18/10/2010 22:51

Get rid.

I was a bit of a horror to DP before we got together properly (f*ck knows why, stupid girl) and he properly pursued me and then Italy - if he hadn't I just wouldn't have gotten involved after the terrible men I'd been with before put me fully off relationships.

You need someone to make you feel seriously wanted and loved at all times

peeweewee · 18/10/2010 22:58

I'm going to rebrand him as "some guy who didn't love me enough" rather than "guy I really fancy"

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ScaryFucker · 18/10/2010 23:01

Erm, well I just think I struck lucky Smile

I did have to kiss quite a lot of frogs though

serenity · 18/10/2010 23:08

OK, been with DH just over 23 years - met when I was 15. I didn't get together with him expecting it to last (he was my first proper boyfriend) so there was no pressure.

I think it's important that we're friends - we'd get on even if we weren't together. We have similar life views (politics, religion, or lack of it, what we want out of life) and overlapping interests (not identical, but similar enough that we can spend time together) Going back to the top, someone mentioned about having a degree of independence, I'd definitely agree with that.

I don't know about tips for getting together - either it'll happen or it won't. I think the danger of pushing things is the chance you'll push him away. Could you try and enjoy things as they are, without looking ahead? He doesn't seem to want more than that. If you really can't do that, maybe you're not right for each other atm , you're both looking for different things.

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 19/10/2010 00:24

I think in your particular case OP, it depends on whether you want to settle down with someone imminently i.e. a monogamous relationship and children. If you feel that this is something you are ready for, or your age and fertility make this more urgent, then it makes sense to have a chat about where he sees this relationship heading. If however, this is all way down the line for you, you've got time on your side to let things develop at their own pace.

I absolutely hate books like The Rules or Men are from Mars, but I also know that I am an "all or nothing" type of person and knew this about myself from a very young age. Consequently if the sparks didn't fly in a relationship, or the chemistry wasn't there, I moved on pretty sharpish, because I never wanted to settle for anything less.

When I started seeing my H 28 years ago, he was the first man I hadn't got bored with at some point. Fortunately, he felt the same way and our feelings for one another were explosive and intense. Having been married for 26 years now, that love has survived some real challenges, but although it has waxed and waned over the years, the incredible chemistry is very much there and we are still, for eachother, the person we would most want to share an evening with.

We are compatible intellectually and sexually and have always "got" eachother. When I was first married, an older female friend (a "marriage guidance therapist, which shows my age!) told me that in her opinion, couples achieve far more if they are generally polite and kind to one another. Consequently, although I can think of a few occasions when I have called my H names and they were taken on the chin, he has never once called me a bad name and we have never belittled eachother in front of, or to others.

Having separate interests and friends, as well as shared passions and mutual friends, have helped our marriage. I am probably the more independent one, but we both enjoy our own company and are quite happy to spend time and solitude on our own.

The other issue which took some time to resolve in our marriage - and resurfaced every few years when work circumstances changed, was the thorny area of domestic chores. My H had a tendency to be pretty lazy and I had a tendency to be over-responsible. I think we've got it right now, although tbh, I actually think my H does more than me now around the house Wink.

Everyone's different, but FWIW, I do see couples having a lot of problems further down the line when the chemistry really wasn't there from the start, or when one or both of them "settled" for something less than their ideal. That chemistry and mutual fascination, together with great sex, is a hell of a glue when life throws a curve ball in your direction.

ElGee · 19/10/2010 02:44

I don't think you can really 'get yourself into' a long term relationship - at least not one you'll be truly happy with because it could mean settling for less just for the sake of being with someone IYSWIM.

I think the trick is to keep your options open, communicate, have fun... and within a short amount of time after meeting someone you should be able to establish whether the relationship has potential to go somewhere ie wanting similar things from life, enjoying each others company, etc, or whether you think this isn't the right man for you and you should cut your losses and find someone who is!

Having said that, as relatively short as three months is, its still long enough to be able to have the talk with him about where he sees your relationship going. I don't think its unreasonable to expect to see him more than once a week at this stage either. But you need to be prepared for him being happy with the way things are at present - would you be ok with keeping things casual or do you want more commitment? If its the latter then you need to have a think about whether he's worth waiting around for to see if he changes his mind. Personally though if that was the case I would say move on, because theres someone else out there who will want something more with you right now Smile

As for maintaining a happy long term relationship... see what WhenwillIfeelnormal said, especially the part about making sure he helps out around the house! Grin

Just talk to him... Good luck!

BaggedandTagged · 19/10/2010 02:55

Agree with ElGee. You just have to suck it and see.

My advice would be to give people a chance and not just go for the passionate whirlwind. Often the slow burn gives off more heat than the inferno. Probably sounds very unromantic, but for me, a marriage partner needs the same qualities as a business partner. You need to

  • want the same things from life
  • have trust and respect between you: the acid test is whether you sound each other out on decisions because you want the other's input/ advice, not because you're "asking permission"
  • accept and compliment each other's strengths and weaknesses
  • be able to both work well together for the common cause and be happy to give each other space to pursue own ambitions.
piscesmoon · 19/10/2010 07:12

I would agree with that list BaggedandTagged. We are very much opposites, with different interests, but it works well because we have everything in your list.

BabsH · 19/10/2010 07:24

I just wanted to add that my Dad gave me the best advice before I met my DH and was dating. After about six months, if you find that your chap isnt looking for the same things as you (in my case settling down with the right person and starting a family, which we are working on right now) then you should move on to the next person, life really is too short to spend time and emotion on a relationship which isnt giving you the things that you need.

Also, I would agree that you should be busy with your own stuff, it's not easy but at the very least you'll be too busy to worry about someone not getting back to you and you never know who you might meet whilst doing your own thing Wink

lostinafrica · 19/10/2010 07:48

Good call, OP, to rebrand him!

He sounds just like my DH when we were first dating. Long, happy times together and then nothing in between. I married him still not quite sure how important I was to him.

We've been married for 8 years and, although I now believe he loves me (in some way), I still don't think he's that interested in me. (What complete piffle that sounds - but it is the way I feel!) We still have good times together and long periods of almost no time together. I love my children so I don't want to turn back the clock. I'm not going to walk out of the relationship because this is the man I chose. We make the best of it that we can, but I do look around at other couples and wonder what I could've had if I'd had a bit more self-respect.

I think your chat should be the opposite of the earlier suggestion - I'd say to him, "Look, I'd like a serious relationship with a man who adores me. I understand you're not ready for that at the moment. How about we're free to see other people and we see how we feel about each other in a couple of months?"

Either he'll be sad and then forget you or he'll realise what he's about to lose and get his act together. But you definitely won't look needy!

2rebecca · 19/10/2010 08:37

Bloke and I just met and clicked 10 years ago.We have some different hobbies and some different opinions on things but both enjoy each other's company and are able to accept each others differences not try to change each other.
I think liking each other as friends is important.
Agree with bagged and tagged's list.

6 months seems very early to me to be wanting to settle down and have a family, although I suppose it depends on your age.
Being committed to each other doesn't have to mean living together and having children, although it's pointless spending the most fertile years of your life with a bloke who doesn't want kids if you do.

ullainga · 19/10/2010 10:44

OP sorry to say but I would rebrand him as "He's just not that into you" guy. He doesn't contact you, he is not worried that you might find someone else while he is ignoring you and he has pretty much told you that he can't offer you what you want. I've tried to get many, many guys like that to change their minds. No, it did not work. So - next!

As for how to actually find a happy relationship - according to my experience I believe that you should be able to act normally, be at ease when you are with them. If you have to tiptoe around the guy, play some elaborate games not to scare him off, pretend to be someone else to get him to like you better - he's not what you are looking for.

allgonebellyup · 19/10/2010 12:11
  1. Be happy to be single OR in a r'ship. Dont expect a man to be your "be all and end all."
  1. Someone who can make you wet yourself laughing and also feel like your best mate. (Also feel like you have known them forever if really only a short time!)
  1. Be happy to spend time apart as well as together - and each have your own interests and mates.

Peeweee:

i have only been seeing my bloke for a month so still early days for me! But i am happy to do stuff by myself and not hoping he will be there every spare minute.
We do talk and text lots every day and i think he would be upset, as would i, if we didnt have daily contact.
Not really sure where my thing with him is going but i know he is quite serious about me as he makes the effort to drive 40 miles to see me most days, and most of the time doesnt even want sex unless i nag!

peeweewee · 19/10/2010 19:08

Thanks everyone. I have always been incredibly good at being on my own - but I'm getting bored of that now and just really crave a loving relationship with someone. I get plenty of guys who try and chat me up when I go out but that's not what I'm looking for anymore.

I'm not massively fussed about kids even though I'm getting on and don't have much time left. That's not what's driving me really (although I do realise that a woman past a 'certain age' is off the cards for any man who wants a family himself and that does put some pressure on me).

He knows I'm free to see others and he respects he can't offer me more commitment so he sucks it up that I go on dates even though he doesn't like it (tbh I'm not really interested in anyone else). He hasn't seen anyone else.

It's just that I feel like I'm too far down the priority list after work, friends and sleep.

We had a 'talk' about a month ago, he asked if we could keep dating as he wasn't ready for another relationship (9 year relationship ended six months ago). He said he didn't want me out of his life and wanted to take it slowly. I agreed to keep just dating him. But I just feel like we're stagnating.

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Speckledeggy · 19/10/2010 22:19

"and just really crave a loving relationship with someone."

That is what you want so stop wasting time and go and find it. I doubt if you are going to get that from this chap.

You may not want kids but time marches on. Don't waste your life. Find someone who truly loves you and makes you feel great. It sounds like you deserve it.

Good luck!

x

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