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It's over and it's killing me

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gribber · 13/10/2010 04:57

My partner of ten years walked out on me and our 8yo daughter 6 days ago. Things hadn't been good for a long time and had got a lot worse financially - we were and are under huge pressure with debt and his job hours had been cut.

This is the second time he has walked out on a relationship where he has a child - when I met him he had a son who is now 16. He suffered enormous guilt over that - so much that I can't believe he's done it again.

Just after I met him, his father who had been violent and abusive died and it seemed to send him over the edge. Even though he'd grown up with a loving step-father, it seems the cycle had to be repeated as he became violent towards me. I got him to seek counselling as a condition of staying with him and things improved. We had our daughter but then, while I was pregnant, he attacked me and I had him arrested.

More remorse from him and he agreed to stay away from drinking too much - it was the odd binge that would make him flip. Our daughter was born and we were happy for a few years although I suffered post-natal depression. I got help for that and he was very supportive but as time went on my career (I'm self-employed) ran into trouble and money issues began to mount.

None of this was helped by the fact that our daughter was a terrible sleeper and remained so until she was 6. It tore us apart physically and mentally - he moved into the living room to sleep as one of us needed to be functioning to work and there he stayed.

Our sex life dwindled to nothing and, as time went on, he became more and more withdrawn which made me withdraw as well. He has never been an easy man but his desire to go out with his mates and live like a single guy grew. The odd night away turned into weekends away and he even snuck off on holiday with a mate while I had taken our daughter away for what I had hoped would be a family break. His excuse for staying back was that he needed to work when in fact he had his trip planned all the time.

Things deteriorated and I guess my self-esteem plummeted - instead of being violent he would say awful things to and about me when he got annoyed. When my mother died there were hideous family ructions and this was the beginning of the slow, painful slide to what has now happened. I think I've been quietly depressed since then and never knew how to reach out to him or to make our worsening relationship better.

Still, I hoped somehow we would stick to what we had agreed which was to stay together for the sake of our daughter. Then, in the past few weeks, as our money problems worsened he became odder and odder - going out jogging a lot (and yes, he really was jogging!), disappearing to make calls on his mobile outside the house and being very distant.

Then one morning he dropped our daughter at school, told her he loved her but would be away for a while and left. He called me two hours later to tell me that was it - it was over and he was never coming back. He was out of touch for 4 days and then texted so I persuaded him he had to come and talk to both of us face to face. That was today and it was hideous. He was cold and emotionless, telling me he doesn't love me, it's over and he should have left two years ago.

I can't sleep and my heart physically hurts - he has also walked out on his job altogether and is signing on so can't give us any money and I don't know what to do. We already get tax credits and I work from home but that hasn't brought in any significant income for ages. I have so many thoughts and fears churning around my head but mostly it's the pain I can't deal with. I want us to be a family again despite everything and I really can't see anything but a bleak future.

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Madascheese · 13/10/2010 05:07

Oh Gribber, I'm so sorry.

Right the first thing is to get practicalities sorted - it will help to be taking control.

Talk to CAB and make sure you are getting all the benefits you're entitled to and get help with getting you finanaces sorted.

Then step by step get your house sorted out, make it feel like your home again.

Get your friends round you too.

Don't look into the future for the time being, just get through the days. Lists really help.

It will get better than this.

Sending you strength

Frrrrightattendant · 13/10/2010 06:33

You poor darling Sad

I'm so, so sorry. I've no practical advice but I have been in a similar situation and I know the utter pain.

You will reach equilibrium again given some time. You really will. For now, take it an hour at a time xxx

gettingeasier · 13/10/2010 07:14

Gribber that sounds awful. Leaving so abruptly is so cruel and damaging to you and your dd. It sounds like perhaps the relationship had run its course but your H is a coward and from the description of your life together once you have processed the emotional pain you can build a happier life.

My xh lived as a single man in most ways for the last five years of our marriage and once you get over the raw shock of the first weeks you will find that their lives are an advantage in your recovery because there is no gaping hole at the dining table, in front of the tv or in your bed as they were absent for so long before.

Take it easy and rage and vent and get as much support as you can , my friends werent surprised when my xh left and I doubt yours will be. Also yes get to CAB and find out bout benefits etc.

The process is such an uneven rollercoaster but once you recover you will realise how this is the best thing to happen in the long run. In the meantime you may wonder if you can survive its so physical at times but you will.

Sending you strength and keep posting

TheGrumpalo · 13/10/2010 07:23

I am so sorry Gibber, it was such a cruel way for hime to leave Sad

Citizens advice were a life saver for me, they took control of my debt and contacted everyone on my behalf. They'll even make the initial calls for you if you need to apply for any benefits to keep you going.

Things will get better, agree with FA, just take each hour at a time and get to the CAB as soon as you can.

What a complete twat walking out on his job so you don't get any money. Go to the CSA anyway and then if he starts work the process is started and it will be quicker to sort out. The initial bit is what takes the time.

Keep your chin up, you'll get through this x

ScaryFucker · 13/10/2010 07:24

I am so sorry, what an utter shock for you

It seems he has found his "exit relationship"

Use the next few days to look into your financial affairs to quieten the panic and resist the temptation to beg and throw yourself on his mercy. That way madness lies.

Look after yourself and your dd now x

RumourOfAHurricane · 13/10/2010 07:25

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gribber · 13/10/2010 10:05

Thank you all - your responses encapsulate just how I feel. I'm worried by how frightened my dd looks and I'm worn out through lack of sleep. He's coming back again today to see her and my stomach is churning at the thought.

Yes, I am panicking so I will try and do the financial stuff. It's obvious to him what I'm going through - one look at the pink and puffy eyes is enough - but I am trying to keep it together in front of him.

It really helps to know there are people out there who understand because the loneliness is crushing and the temptation to beg him to turn back the clock (which I know is impossible) is overwhelming.

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maristella · 13/10/2010 10:21

gribber i'm so sorry you are going through this :(

what what you've told us i honestly believe that once the pain subsides you will feel relieved he has gone.

you and your daughter deserve so much more than anything he has given you.

as an aside he would struggle to claim job seekers if he has left his employment of his own accord.

whatever he is telling you or how he is treating you, it's time to take control of your finances and of your life.

you can do this x

katgutsrum · 13/10/2010 11:16

it seems like he was / is at least half the problem.

the emotional side sounds terribly draining, let alone the real lack of sleep and money worries.

i second doing whatever you can to take some control, start noticing your needs and wants, and be the strong, reliable mother that DD can count on.

have you got family and friends who can be with you?

keep posting, so much good advice here.

gribber · 13/10/2010 13:57

I have great friends who have been wonderful but I know I just keep repeating the same stuff to them. Unfortunately, I have no family but have been in touch with his sister and am taking dd to see them at half term.

I'm also going to have a chat with a fellow mum at school who was a benefits advisor at pick-up time today before he comes over to see dd again. I know dd had a chat with the school counsellor today and seemed happier so that makes me feel a little better.

One hour at a time right now...

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ScaryFucker · 13/10/2010 14:00

we are here for you x

gribber · 19/10/2010 20:13

Hey thanks again everyone - just exhausted right now and trying to keep us both going. It seems he doesn't want to be reasonable or put his dd first - I booked train tickets with what little money I had to go see his family at half term (all of whom my dd adores), organised it with them etc only for him to phone today spitting venom, telling me he was going up there so we couldn't.

I've tried to reason with him and to point out that surely his dd's needs are greater than his but to no avail. I even offered to pay back the coach fare he has supposedly booked but all I got in return was him ranting on about how could I afford to do that if I'd spent all my money on train tickets...

What a child!

Thank you again for letting me rant - it really helps.

x

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atswimtwolengths · 19/10/2010 20:19

You have had a terrible shock, but I think that once you recover from that, you will feel relieved that the relationship is over. I know it's ended in an awful way, but I think this is what's affecting you now, rather than the fact it has ended.

He's made it clear what kind of man he is, hasn't he? You really wouldn't want to stay with him now.

You are lucky you know someone in the benefits office. You will get yourself sorted out - it may be difficult, but it's really not impossible.

Take care of yourself and your poor daughter - treat yourselves gently and kindly - the physical reaction to a shock like this can be tremendous.

gribber · 20/10/2010 20:23

Thank you and I think you're absolutely right. As each day passes I see that, in fact, this may one day turn out to be a good thing.

I had organised to go and see his family with dd over half term just so she could retain a contact that's very important to her but he stepped in when he found out and has made it impossible for us to go. The sad and stupid thing is that I had no intention of even discussing him with his family but instead building valuable bridges for dd. Now he leaves threatening messages telling me to stay away from them and that they really don't want me to drag them into this. Insane when it was they who called me in the aftermath.

I can see now how controlling and abusive he has been even when the physical abuse ceased. Now I need to recover my self-esteem for myself and my dd...and I bloody well will even if it takes a lot longer than I would like!!

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purplepeony · 20/10/2010 20:27

How has he made it impossible for you to go? Can you simply not defy him and do what you want for your DD?

gribber · 02/12/2010 09:31

I'm sorry I haven't posted for a while - it all became too much and the only way to survive the rollercoaster was to shut down and focus on DD.

We couldn't go to see his family because he threw his toys out of the pram and they basically backed him. Now that I've discovered the whole story it all becomes clear.

My DD called her father to ask him to stay the night before her birthday last week as she really wanted to wake up with him there - much against my better judgement I agreed. The moment he appeared with a brand new outfit and haircut I knew what had happened.

That first evening we all went to the panto - myself, DD, him and my stepson - and he kept disappearing to text. I liberated the jointly owned camera he had taken from his bag and looked at the photos. There were some of a woman and a little girl as well as him partying with her and a male friend we both know. While he was in the bath with my DD I looked at his phone and sure enough there were loads of loving messages between him and a woman he used to go out with years ago. I saw red and called her - she answered with 'hello darrrrling' and I said actually it's me and I'm calling to tell you I have a devastated child on my hands and I hope you are proud of yourself. She hung up.

Turns out he's back up north, living round the corner from his mum in a town he professes to hate with this woman and her five year old daughter. He tried to tell me he had simply taken up with her after we separated but I asked him to drop the lies for once. The male friend is a particularly poisonous specimen who subjected his ex to a nasty break up, gaining part custody of his kids despite his regular drug abuse and who is obviously advising my ex on the legal side of things.

My ex still refuses to set up regular payments for my daughter and I told him he cannot tell her about his new living arrangements, especially not the fact that he now has a new little girl to whom he can play daddy.

He became extremely abusive, threatening to make a complaint that our DD was being neglected. I was very upset at this although this is patently not the case and I have done everything to hold it together for her, look after her and minmise the trauma as much as possible.

I acted my way through her birthday and even entertained his niece who came round but further hurt came when his mother called to wish DD a happy birthday, told me I was better off without him and said how lovely it would be to see us at Christmas. His sister had also sent a card saying the same thing. As with half term, he started ranting and telling his lies and they all backtracked. We're now going to spend Christmas with one of my oldest friends.

What I do not understand is why he keeps piling on hurt after hurt and why his family have abandoned us as well...then again, blood is thicker etc. We have a wonderful community around us who have been so supportive and my doctor has been equally fantastic although I am too afraid to take anti-depressants in case he can use that against me.

He lies all the time, telling his family that I won't let DD talk to him on the phone. The truth is I have told her she can whenever she likes, holding out the phone to her when he calls and asking her if she wants to speak to him...mostly she just shakes her head.

Right now we still have no money as I am a freelance and finding it so hard to work. We get tax credits but I have to sort all that out as well as all the rest of the financial mess he left us in. Above it all, though, I look at my DD and see the pain she is going through and how incredibly brave she is being...and that is when I want to kill him for what he's done.

I know the pain will ease eventually but he can never take away what he has done and my daughter will be affected by it her whole life - although as little as possible if I have anything to do with it.

Thanks for letting me vent again...this really does help.

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Threaders · 02/12/2010 09:42

My god, speaking from a mans perspective - he sounds like a first class, poisonous, lying, conniving, devious, satanic little cunt. Stay strong, use your support network, and don't give an inch to this little shit.

LeQueen · 02/12/2010 10:05

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gribber · 02/12/2010 10:08

Hey Threaders - thanks for that. Good to hear from a man's perspective as it reinforces what I will tell my DD if she ever needs to hear it...that not all men behave like her father. And it made me smile!

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gribber · 02/12/2010 10:09

And LeQueen - thank you. That last sentence sums it up brilliantly!

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Threaders · 02/12/2010 10:27

Yes, you were just unlucky that you met one of those rare specimens of the human race that can behave in such a wankerish way. We're definitely not all like that, in fact I would say that the very vast majority of us would deplore such behaviour.... onwards and upwards!

templemaiden · 02/12/2010 10:42

The only regret that I would have in all of this is that your DD is being cut off from half her family.

Don't give up on that side of the family - go behind his back if necessary to keep that contact.

My dh's ex-wife took their two kids up to Scotland when they split and none of his family have seen them since he subsequently met me - until then they were coming down every two weeks. When he met me she threw her toys out of the pram and refused to let them come down any more. They are keenly missed I can assure you.

gribber · 02/12/2010 11:16

I know templemaiden - I am all too aware that her family are very important to my DD and I hope that, in time, things will settle. In the meantime, we will send Christmas cards etc and hopefully phone contact will continue.

I think it is all very raw right now and maybe they will think it through and realise that a lot of what he is saying simply cannot be right.

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adifferentlife · 02/12/2010 11:26

Poor you. You are going through the toughest time. I have no real advice other than to say face a day at a time, and to reiterate what others have said about the fact that long term, you will be better off without this man in your life. You and your DD will be better off alone than with him, and perhaps one day you might meet a more loving, normal man who will truly appreciate you.

Do you have savings you can access? Are you actually okay on the day-to-day bills? You need to get straight financially as much as you can before almost everything else.

How have your family been about it? Is your DM anywhere nearby?

Good luck.

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