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How do I break it to my Mum kindly that she is incredibly undermining?.

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marge2 · 29/09/2010 18:41

Sorry this is a bit rambly , but it's been a brooding for ages and I would like some ideas from you wise women on how to handle this.

I love my Mum to bits. We have always had a great relationship. She has been incredibly helpful with childcare over the past 7 years, but increasingly, she is totally doing my head in and I feel our relationship is suffering because she undermines me at every step with my children.

She lives alone not far from us but I am finding that I am trying to avoid meeting up with her with my 7 and 5 year old sons as it turns into a disaster every time.

Typical example - and there are millions of them. I have asked her not to give my sons sweets. Not because I never let them have sweets, but because she has no idea that a full haribo party bumper pack is too much for a couple of small kids in one sitting. I have asked her numerous times - yet she still does it.

We went round for a visit to have supper tonight. I asked the boys to eat up - she said 'Aw - I think they've had enough' I say well they would eat it at home - she says "well it'sa bit dry - I just think it's hard to eat".

I tell kids if they don't eat up there's nothing else to eat.

on leaving DS2 is trying to rummage in her biscuit drawer, I say ' Hey I said nothing else' he starts to cry - Granny says ' Aw can't he have a strawberry'. I clench my fists and grit my teeth - he gets a strawberry. So many occasions like this - the kids no longer pay any attention to me when she is around as they think she's in charge. I end up snapping at the kids and sulking with her and we both end up feeling rubbish.

Now I know it's down to me to put my foot down, but it's REALLY hard to find the words to tell her she is undermining me and to please stop. I feel like a horrid snappy 14 year old and I am worried that she will be dreadfully upset.

How can I tell her she drives me mad she is NOT their Mum - I AM!.

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MoralDefective · 29/09/2010 20:58

How often do you see her.....if it's not often then i suppose you could ignore it but......if the DCs are ignoring you then maybe you'll have to bite the bullet and tell your Mum(privately)not to undermine what you say....tell her how much it upsets you when your children ignore you and that it carries over to home(even if it doesn't).......take the haribo bumper pack and put it in your bag,'for later',all the while saying,'say thank you to granny for the sweets,you can have them when we get home'.......good luck,i'm 50 and my Mum can still irritate me as if i'm 14 years oldSmile

notnowbernard · 29/09/2010 21:04

MIL is a bit like this (I also get on really well with her, she is a lovely woman but she has an inability to say NO to my DC)

I have taken to saying something like the following:

"I know we're at Nanny's house, DC, but I'm afraid I am here too atm, and therefore, it's my rules today. I know Nanny is saying Yes but I am Mean Mummy and am saying No. So don't hassle Nanny any more, please"

It gets MIL off the hook with the DC and I am able to pull rank without having aggro with MIL

2rebecca · 29/09/2010 21:09

Why is it hard to quietly ask your mum not to do this? You could phrase it nicely and say you know she means well but you find it undermining and it is affecting your relationship. You could also ask her how she'd have felt if her mum or MIL had done that when she was younger.

Otherwise I'd agree that I'd just overrule her and say "sorry mum, but I just said no" or "mum, you're doing it again and I told you I don't like it."

Better than silently seething.

MooMooFarm · 29/09/2010 21:14

marge2 are you my sister?? Because we seem to have the same mum....

Sorry, I have no words of wisdom to share, I just wanted to express my sympathy. My mum is lovely 2 but sometimes seems to butt in almost every sentence I say if I am trying to tell one of mine off.

We have fallen out about it loads of times but I don't think she will ever change now, and I have to put up with it because she is my best babysitter - and she knows it Wink

If you come up with a solution please let me know!!

MooMooFarm · 29/09/2010 21:15

BTW - I also meant to say, your children know full well that you are in charge; they are just bright enough to know they can totally ignore you and pull granny's strings when she's there!

MoralDefective · 29/09/2010 21:26

Yep, v.good notnowbernard,it lets Granny off the hook and you can cope with being 'mean mum'....i could always be 'mean mum'...even if i didn't want to ...DCs will get over it.

MrsSaxon · 29/09/2010 21:30

My MIL is exactly like this. She lives round the corner from DCs school and we used to pop in 3 or 4 times a week, but we don't now.

She complains that we don't pop in any more, but if she could keep each visit under 5000 calories we would.

DD has been ill when she has visited her house on her own as they just stuff her full of crap.

marge2 · 29/09/2010 22:46

Thanks - kep the suggestions coming. I need a good arsenal.

She worked in and then ran her own pre-school for 20 years from when my brothers and I left primary school to the time I had DS1. Finished it at about the time I went back to work. She has never got the fact that she is not always in charge of every child that comes within her range.

I know I need to have a quiet private word with her but since my Dad died she is so prone to tears (13 years ago is along time I know, but she misses him desperatey and the Grandkids are her everything) .

I also really liked...
"I know we're at Nanny's house, DC, but I'm afraid I am here too atm, and therefore, it's my rules today. I know Nanny is saying Yes but I am Mean Mummy and am saying No. So don't hassle Nanny any more, please".

I plan to use it!! Any more like this??

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akhems · 29/09/2010 22:51

I don't know how you do it but make sure you find a way. My mum was the same - she meant well and was very kind but the result was that my children had no respect for me, didn't listen or do anything I said because nanny said different. The result was two spoilt, unruly brats.

They're now young adults and they run rings around her, in fact at times I'm downright ashamed of them because they have no respect for her.

I barely see them because they know I won't tolerate the nonsense she does and I won't be manipulated in the way she allows them to.

Seriously, nip it in the bud asap!

NonnoMum · 29/09/2010 22:57

Marge and MooMoo, think I'm the third sister in the family!

marge2 · 29/09/2010 22:58

I know I must find a way. If I don't I will end up hardly ever seeing her.

Since my Dad died I suppose we have all pussy footed around her a bit always trying to cheer her up. Also she is my Mum and I was brought up to respect her. I find it hard to contradict her.

Keep those phrases coming please!!

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