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Lying - it IS a big deal, right?

33 replies

AufDerMaur · 08/09/2010 12:55

Since DP and I got together he has lied many many times. At the beginning of the relationship he lied about his past, he lied about his ex, he lied about his day to day activities (like telling me he'd been swimming when he'd actually not left the house etc). I had it out with him, he said he recognised there was a problem and that he'd stop doing it. A few months passed and I just happened to come across a letter one day that suggested a major lie was in force. Dug a little deeper and it turned out he was lying about loans, credit cards and various other debts. We got that solved. Again he promised he'd stop lying. A few months went past and I found out he'd been lying about his current day to day activities, like telling me he'd popped to the bakery for lunch when really he'd gone to a resteraunt. I had it out with him again, this time he retaliated and asked why its such an issue when the things I'm on about don't even effect me. I said the point was he was constantly being dishonest. His excuse was "yeah but why do you care about where I had my lunch??" - he just doesn't get it, its the level of dishonesty, not the fact that he had lunch somewhere other than a bakery etc!
So again, he said he'd stop lying and just be straight with me from now on.
Now, a few nights ago he told me he was going out with a few blokes from work. He named one specific bloke. I said "ok".
This morning I logged onto the PC, went to facebook and he'd accidently left his logged in. On there was a message from a woman he works with about the night out they were going on. Not just the two of them, but a few people from work and she had arranged it.
So basically he's lied again. I text him and asked why he lied and his excuse was "If you don't care that I'm going, why are you bothered about who I'm going with?" I'M NOT! I'M PISSED OFF ABOUT YET MORE LYING!!

So is he right?? Am I overreacting because he's lying about stuff that doesn't affect me or am I right in being pissed off about constant dishonesty?

OP posts:
Eurostar · 08/09/2010 23:37

There's actually quite a bit of research out there showing that compulsive liars have something going on with brain structure that may be causative to the lying...if you're feeling strong there's a very technical article here...
cercor.oxfordjournals.org/content/20/1/205.full#abstract-1

Anyways, he ain't changing so if you are not tied to this man with DC, give up, why put yourself through it?

proudnsad · 08/09/2010 23:46

Auf, I'll be blunt, you're either playing silly buggers on here today, or you are in a huge big awful mess with an abusive, aggressive, lying ARSEHOLE.

If it's the latter then I agree with AF, stop the stealth and let people help you.

ChippingIn · 09/09/2010 00:34

AufDerMaur Welcome to MN. Two very interesting 'starter' posts.

Agree with AF.

caramelwaffle · 09/09/2010 01:24

What anyfucker said ^

IseeGraceAhead · 09/09/2010 02:10

I've just read your other thread. The man is a psychopath. He will kill someone. And then you.

SolidGoldBrass · 09/09/2010 02:15

Look for the things in your past, Auf. The things that convinced you that any man is better than no man at all, the things that convinced you that you are worthless and don't matter, the things that convinced you that it is somehow your responsibility to turn this man from a shit into a decent human being.
Because all those things are WRONG. You can't change a bad person into a nice one. His horrible behaviour is not your fault and you can't fix it. And the least you deserve is to be able to feel safe and happy and comfortable in your own home, in your own life, whether or not there is a partner there.

IseeGraceAhead · 09/09/2010 04:32

Legal guidance on Assault: "An assault is committed when a person intentionally or recklessly causes another to apprehend the immediate infliction of unlawful force." (Such as driving your car straight at them while making threatening gestures.) Max penalty for common assault: six months imprisonment. If the victim is a public servant or a vulnerable individual such as a child, the charge is considered 'seriously aggravated'. Assault includes verbal threats.

Public Order offences Section 4 and Affray: "threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour". Max sentence six months.

Domestic Violence: "any incident of threatening behaviour, violence or abuse (psychological, physical, sexual, financial or emotional) between adults who are or have been intimate partners or family members".

Nice guy you've got there. His aggression, sense of entitlement and habitual dishonesty make it pretty likely you'd uncover some really serious stuff if you looked. You really must get him out of your life altogether - NOW.

Then book yourself in for some full-on, grown-up therapy. SGB's right, you wouldn't even think of sharing your time with anybody like this unless you had some very damaged values. I'm not judging you, I was the same - and I care about you finding a better, safer & happier way of living.

HRHPrincessReality · 09/09/2010 07:50

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