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Who do you talk to when you can't to real life friends but feel you might need to?

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sorrento56 · 06/09/2010 13:47

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 06/09/2010 14:43

What do you mean, sorrento? You need to talk to someone specific, or you need support IRL? Are you alright?

IseeGraceAhead · 06/09/2010 14:53

I talk a lot on Mumsnet (oh, you noticed??!) and other forums. I have phoned Samaritans before. They don't do advice, but are fantastic at listening even if you only cry for an hour (I know I'm not alone in having done that.) Sometimes there is something you just need to get said aloud for the first time, or you're desperate to clarify your thoughts/feelings with an uninvolved other. That's precisely what Samaritans are for, and they're good.

I've also called Mind when I thought I really had "gone mad" - the lady was excellent. For relationship matters, Relate has a phone service as do Childline and Women's Aid.

Find a helpline that fits your predicament :) Better still, try a few. And post here!
All the best.

sorrento56 · 06/09/2010 16:05

Hi

I just mean I don't want to talk to my friends as it is about my husband and they know him and on here, you get such a lot of leave him posts, you are stupid to stay, over almost any problem. I am not even sure why I need to talk, I just feel unable to think for myself at the moment.

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loves2walk · 06/09/2010 16:12

If you post on here they won't be all 'leave him' responses, you'll get a full range. I know I never post a 'leave him' reply but that's only because I know I'm doing such a hopeless job of being objective about my own situation and I'm staying when maybe I should leave.

But it does take a certain strength to start a thread, try though, it really likely to help

IseeGraceAhead · 06/09/2010 16:12

Okay, sorrento. I'm tempted to ask why you think we'd say 'leave him' - but, instead, I'll suggest you pick up a phone.
www.relate.org.uk/relationship-counselling/index.html
www.samaritans.org/talk_to_someone.aspx

sorrento56 · 06/09/2010 16:25

I am just going to post as I think and hope for the best. Thanks for the links IseeGrace, but it isn't bad enough for them.

I love my husband and he loves me. We have been together a long time and we have children together. We have been through a lot together, some of which no one else would go through (I would really hope) but we have always loved each other and wanted to stay together. Except for one time many years ago and that was all my fault.

He has said some hurtful things and I am just wondering if he would rather leave. He says not and said he just said them because he was upset and angry. We disagreed with how he handled one of the children and he just threw out that he has no joy in his life and he was fed up of me having depression. He wants me to read the Black dog book from his point of view as he has read the one from mine.

I guess what I am wondering is how do you know when to throw in the towel? I still love him and know he has put up with a lot. He has stayed with me when other men would have left and I feel he deserves the same chance.

He has said he is sorry and has shown he is but I am doubting myself to be able to make the right decision.

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loves2walk · 06/09/2010 16:48

what's the black dog book?

Sounds really tough dealing with depression - do you have to make a decision right now? Could you try and back on an even keel, give yourself more time before taking such a big decision?

loves2walk · 06/09/2010 16:49

sorry about sloppy posting - am juggling cooking kids tea and laptop - not good!

sorrento56 · 06/09/2010 17:00

It was written by someone with depression/or after they were okay I am not sure, and it explains how it is for people with the illness.

I hear what you are saying about making decisions later.I want to be with him, he wants to be with me, I am just scared at the moment but don't really know what of.

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IseeGraceAhead · 06/09/2010 17:00

You sound ever so down on yourself. I am sorry you're having such a bad time right now.

It is hard to live with a depressed partner, no question about that. If you have prolonged downs, your partner can sort of 'catch' it - which is something he needs to guard against. He can do that by making sure there is joy in his life. When two people love each other and share their lives, there's a tendency to take on each other's feelings and feel responsible for them. There seems to be a bit of that happening with you two.

If your H tries to 'share the load' of your illness with you, it doesn't help you: only makes him depressed, too! Likewise, if you expect him to understand how you're feeling, you're asking him to feel depressed ... On the other side of the same coin, you can't decide for him, whether he wants to stay married. He says he does, so believe him. And you can't be solely responsible for the amount of joy in his life; he can find it with your children, at the gym or whatever he does, and in the small things that do bring joy. (One of mine is going through a car wash, but let's not assume I'm typical Wink )

YOU are still in there, under the depression - the you he fell in love with, whom your children adore, and who makes it through the day even when it feels hard. It might be a reasonable idea to talk about this (temporarily) hidden YOU with him, and put some of theings back in your life that let you express your happier side - even for a little while. Are there some films you both find hilarious? Have you stopped dancing round the kitchen with the DCs?

Read the book, please, it sounds like he needs a good listening-to and this is why he asked you to. Go back to your doctor and/or therapist if you're feeling worse.

Find one little thing to revel in every day, however tricky that might seem sometimes. And trust your husband when he shows he loves you :) Good luck xx

sorrento56 · 06/09/2010 17:02

You are such a lovely lady IseeGrace for taking the time to post all that. I really understand what you are saying and feel stupid not to have realised it before. I will be going shopping this week and I will buy that book as well as a little treat for DH. I am going to read your post again now.

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loves2walk · 06/09/2010 17:07

that's a lovely post from grace, what supportive things to say.

if you're struggling with anxiety (being generally scared but of nothing in particular) then that's also a tough time to take on big decisions. You don't need that pressure right now. Maybe focus on getting yourself well again - even though your H said some things which were hurtful, he does sound like he's trying to be supportive now

sorrento56 · 06/09/2010 17:13

He really wants us to be together forever and is sorry for what he said. I really don't know what I am scared off. DH always wants to just move on but I find it hard too, even though I really want too. I felt unsettled and that takes me a couple of days to get over.

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PaulineCampbellJones · 06/09/2010 17:19

The book sounds very interesting to me.
I too find it very hard to be me sometimes and to reveal the real me anymore for fear of rejection but also that it won't wipe away the days of misery I have put my DH through.
You love each other and your DC and have weathered many a storm as you say. What you need right now is support to get you through the anxiety that gets you through the 'fear of the unknown' and the feeling of lack of control that depression can lead to.
That can come with outside help like Relate,more counselling etc.
But also with the support of people on MN. IseeGrace has written such a lovely post and hope you believe in it.

loves2walk · 06/09/2010 17:20

well, I'd say it's understandable that you need time to get over something really hurtful. He needs to give you that time and not expect you to move on quickly.

Maybe just take it easy on yourself and your relationship for a few days. Can you arrange something nice for yourself tomorrow, a coffee with a girlfriend or cinema in the evening and ask your H to put the kids to bed?

sorrento56 · 06/09/2010 17:25

This has just made me think. I was going to post that he was the only boyfriend I was really myself with from the start and then I realised my first was the same. Both have been the only two men I have really loved and have really got under my skin. My DH in a good way, the other guy, not so much.

I have had a lovely day today mainly shopping and cooking/baking and actually feel happy and are enjoying it. Normally I stop the feelings as I feel scared.

I am meeting up with a friend later in the week.

DH normally always does bedtime but we are doing it together now.

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