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Oh dear, it's like this....

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Kally · 14/07/2010 12:10

About a year ago (some of you may remember as I called him Mr. McD) I finished a relationship with a man I had been seeing over the past 2.5 years. There was never any doubt about our feelings for each other, but his working life was in a big slump, financially he was finding it very hard and altho I knew about this, he kept a lot of the 'realities' of this situation away from me. For example, the fact that he was now reduced to living in a shared house, couldn't use his car, top up phone etc, didn't always have the means to travel to me on the train etc etc. Due to this he had all the excuses in the world as to why he kept letting me down. In the end I got insecure about us, worried and in the dark, thinking all sorts about him, I dumped him. I did this in a mature way, explained all and we parted as friends. We kept in touch over the year, now and then a phone call just to chat. He continually said he still loved me and was sorry about everything.
A couple of months after parting I met a new man. Decided to just take it slow and altho he was at that time out of work, we managed to meet about every other weekend. (These are both LDR's by the way (about 2 hours travel)).

New man very enthusiastic and 'into chatting a lot', very open and easy to read, went to his place, and he to mine. My teenage DD was not struck on him and still isn't for some reason she thinks 'he's a drama queen' type . New man knows I still chat now and then and have remained in friendly contact with the previous man. I also told previous man I have a new man in my life.

A year into the relationship with the new man who eventually found a job etc, working a lot of hours etc, and I haven't seen him for the last month due to various 'other commitments'. I also work but schedule weekends with him as a priority when it works out on both our sides. We have sort of dwindled a bit and it's mostly phone calls. He calls every evening and is sweet as pie. But, again, I am left most of the time 'virtual boyfriend'.

I am not stamping my foot here like a spoiled brat, but I have gotten into the situation again where I'm in this relationship, yet not. I feel strung along and 'something there when he has the time'.

The inevitable happened. I had to meet previous man to change a phone contract and get it turned over to him to his account. This was two weeks ago.

It was friendly and we talked about what had been going on etc - about how he's sorry he messed up and all the reasons why and how life was on a downward spiral then and now it's all fallen back into place and he's doing just fine now 'and it's a shame we aren't together now when things are good'. I had no problem with him then, even tried to help as best I could, didn't mind the fact that things were making him 'look like he was a looser' as he used to imply. I never thought that about him. He just clammed up back then and didn't deal with it very well.

My heart was racing when I saw him and I suddenly felt overcome with emotions. It occurred to me that I was really still in love with him and had just been trying to master things best I could over the last year. And there he was, asking me if we were really beyond redemption and he still loved me and had never stopped loving me. It was very emotional. We sat opposite each other with these stupid phone contracts, all official etc. I am not into two timing and playing around and we parted very on that sadly and went off back to our trains.

I haven't been the same since. I feel bad about the new guy and yet really I've not been over the moon about him and I have a feeling it's mutual. He's been more of a companion really and altho he's good fun there's no spark there.

I'm no kid, into my early fifties. I have my daughter to consider, as well. Looks a bit bad switching back and forth like that and I can't say anything to anyone about it all as it seems so unkind and fickle.

I am due to go to the new man this weekend, merely a Saturday night come back Sunday thing and I really can't be bothered. I feel I'd rather sit and 'dream' about the other one (which is silly). I know he'd be here at the drop of a hat and he told me so. Just feel very heavy hearted about the new guy and don't know how to go about any of this.

Have to go out on a work call but will be back in an hour or so.

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CarGirl · 14/07/2010 12:15

Why do you keep choosing unavailable men?

I would recommend talking through a counsellor about this issue tbh.

sincitylover · 14/07/2010 12:19

If you want guy no. 1 and he wants you just go for it.

I may be missing something here but what's stopping you going back to guy no. 1 especially now he's back on an even keel.

It doesn't seem as if guy no. 2 is ideal and you think he thinks the same.

Or rather than chose have no guy for a while.

The fact you are hesitating though - does that mean you are really less hung up on guy no 1 than you think.

I say this because in my life there is someone who if came back and asked me to 'go back' with him I wouldn't hestitate and would have no qualms about dumping anyone else I was seeing at the time. But then maybe I am too hard.

sincitylover · 14/07/2010 12:19

hestating

sincitylover · 14/07/2010 12:20

hesitating (can't type today!!)

BalloonSlayer · 14/07/2010 12:23

I think if you really were in love with the other one, it wouldn't have just "occurred to you" like that, you would have known it all along and - more importantly - you wouldn't have broken up with him in the first place.

It does seem a bit of a case of the Grass is Greener.

Also that you like unavailable men, as CarGirl says, but if they get a bit more unavailable then you like then they are history.

Not much help. Sorry.

Kally · 14/07/2010 12:38

No, I'm not a Grass is Greener sort. Really not.

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Kally · 14/07/2010 13:24

In fact the new man is far more 'greener' so to say, but that is not my agenda. I'm not gold digging here. I just like to be in a relationship with someone who is upfront and comfortable with themselves and at the time the first man had all sorts going on and he tried to keep me in the unknown about it and it ended up costing our relationship.

I came out of a marriage of 26 years and didn't ever expect to feel the way I feel about Nr.1. It was only after having taken myself away from it I realised I was just doing auto pilot. I feel pretty bad about the other guy. I do want to get it over with. Have any of you been in a similar thing? I feel very guilty as if I am just passing him off. You don't do that to people and yet here I am thinking it. But then at this stage in my life...

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/07/2010 13:37

Kally,

I remember you from before now.

I think you'd be better off without either of these men. Neither of them are suitable really and you need to pay heed to what your DD is saying here, perhaps he is a drama queen. She actually seems emotionally intelligent and probably wonders what the hell her mother is doing with such a chap in the first place. You are not teaching her very good lessons with regards to relationships here.

After your marriage ended I wonder if you ever gave yourself enough opportunity to be on your own and find out what you really want out of life and love. Do you yourself only feel validated as a person when a man is around?.

I would also say love yourself for a change and I would also think you are afraid of being on your own.

Think you do need to ask yourself why you continue to choose such unsuitable men (another LDR as well). What are you so afraid of?. I wonder if you are trying to rescue or save such types, are you a "rescuer" and or "saviour" type of person?. Is this what you were in your previous marriage?

AnyFucker · 14/07/2010 14:10

I remember you too, kally

I certainly remembering joining a swell of voices, advising you to dump no.1 (he must have been a royal pain in the ass back then, tbh...no guarantees he will be different just becuase his job situation is a bit better, will he act like a dickhead again the next time something goes a bit wrong in his life ??)

the rest of it, I completely agree with attila

why can't you just find a man that is nearer, why all the difficulties of a LDR ?? It's like you need an excuse to not let them get too close, but on the surface you kick back against it

you need to think very carefully about this

  1. repeating patterns that have very obviously failed in the past

  2. going back rarely works...you must keep moving forward

Kally · 14/07/2010 18:09

Sorry, had to cover an 'off sick' so couldn't get back to this.

AF and Attila thanks for your responses and remembering. I haven't been on here for ages but have been peeking now and then.

Just haven't been lucky with guys closer by. These men I met on an internet dating site and I always stressed the point about it being far and travel not always easy (I don't have a car)but you know, it seems possible when eager. Which to begin with it is.. then it starts to get more and more difficult. I am at fault here but man Nr.2 has a car and stressed it wouldn't be a problem. But he was out of work and it 'became' a problem which you can understand for a while - but he's working now but still looks for cheap train deals (which I don't have a problem with either). I suppose it wouldn't bother me if I felt deeply for him.

Nr. 1 came very near to moving to be here with me. But he then got a job offer in his town and it got him out of a situation but the fallout of the 'out of work' period had already taken it's toll. He has always remained in contact and remembered our birthdays etc and Xmas. I never had complaints about his nature - only that he kept me in the dark about his reality.

Look, honestly? The reality is I am not looking to get remarried at my age, I just want to have a good wholesome relationship with someone that I feel I rock his boat and he mine. I work hard and I am totally independent, me and my daughter live peacefully here with our two cats etc. Nr. 1 was a lovely guy, good to DD, (hated the 2 cats)and apart from the fact that he got flakey I was nuts about him. Our sex life was brilliant because he hit every spot and was affectionate and attentive. I got into a whirlwind of doubt because of what was going on with him and how he didn't 'let me in'. He continually said he learned from this
separation.

I suppose I am just looking for justification. Someone who'll say 'Go for it' which sounds childish. I am not a very daring person and always hold back when feeling emotional. Perhaps that's why it took me 26 years to get out of a shit marriage - I never do what I want. Never reckless.

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AnyFucker · 14/07/2010 18:39

kally, bump this later for the evening crowd

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