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Friend's behaviour

8 replies

JLsmum · 21/07/2003 01:38

I am just interested to see what others think about a friend of mine, whose behaviour I find hard to understand. DH thinks I should dump her but I've known her for a long time so I'm not sure what to do.

We both have young children and our boys are similar ages, so we try to get together as often as we can with the kids. Her dh and my dh also get along quite well so we also tend to have dinner together every few months.

The thing about this friend is that she is very unreliable and frequently cancels at the last minute, even if she has arranged the meet-up herself. Nine times out of ten she will say that her children are sick, and I've come to the conclusion that if this is true, her children are actually sick a lot more often than they are well. Her dh once told me (in a joking manner) that sometimes he hears her on the phone making excuses to people for why she can't do something, and he can't believe some of the c**p that she tells people.

Anyway a couple of weeks ago I invited her, her dh and their children to my son's birthday party, which was just to be a gathering of family & friends at our home. She said (quite happily) that they would come, and asked what she could bring - I told her she didn't have to bring anything but she insisted on bringing some drinks and biscuits, so I agreed. A couple of days before the party, she phoned me and said they were looking forward to coming and mentioned again that she was bringing something. So, on the morning of the party, she rang me and said "Oh guess what, xxx is sick with a vomiting virus, so we can't come." I was a bit put out as my initial feeling was that she was making an excuse not to come, but I suggested that she could bring her other child along if she wanted, and leave the 'sick' one at home with her dh. She reluctantly agreed and when she turned up later with her daughter, she handed me a bag containing the drinks and biscuits and said (in an off-hand manner) "Here's the food you wanted me to bring." Considering I never asked her to bring anything in the first place, and only accepted because she insisted. A short time later I asked her how her son was, and she said "oh he's better now." ??? Quick recovery, I thought - only took a few hours.

When I said to dh later that I couldn't understand why she is repeatedly unreliable, he commented that if it was his friend, he wouldn't put up with them anymore. He said that I should try to look for the 'message' in her behaviour, and that she probably cancels because she simply doesn't want to be there. But why would she go through the whole 'charade' and still maintain contact if she didn't want to. By the way, I have 'let her know' at times that I haven't been very happy about being let down at the last minute, but it doesn't seem to change. Generally I am quite laid back but I'm sure she knows that I don't like it when she does this. Sorry for the long rant, gets it off my chest anyway..

OP posts:
whymummy · 21/07/2003 07:40

hi jlsmum,i find your friends behaviour really annoying,i have a friend thats the same,always cancelling at the last minute and sometimes doesnt even bother phoning to say she cant make it,like a few months ago she said the whole family was going swimming for the first time,i told her not to buy anything as she could borrow swimming costumes for the kids,little life jacket and arm bands,she said yes and told me shell come at 10am the next morning,i spent the whole evening turning the house upside down looking for those things,but did she come for them?did she phone?no,she later told me,they went swimming and bought what they needed on the way,when i told her about the trouble i went through to do her a favour she said,did you?not even an apology,i do like her as a friend so im trying not to fall out with her,but now when she says something i just dont expect her to do it so it doesnt affect me so much,you could try doing this,keep being friends but dont expect much from her,good luck

doormat · 21/07/2003 08:01

agree with whymummy still be friends but dont expect too much from her.

Cornflower · 21/07/2003 08:52

Hi JLsmmum,

Afraid sometimes I am guilty like your friend. Sometmes I get overwhelmed with invitations and can feel put on the spot and say yes when I mean no cos it is the easy option at the time. I know it is a bad thing and really it means I am not assertive. I read an interestin book once that saysyou should listen to your gut feelings when asked to do something and if you feel no then say no and do not offer excuses.

But sometinmes it is hard since some folks ask why and insist.

For my own part I frequently invite other people to things and suffer my fair share of being stood up at the last minute. I accept that some excuses are genuine and some are probably not but just potter on doing my own thing anyway. You can never really see into someone else's heart.

Queenie · 21/07/2003 09:32

Hi JLsmum, I can completely understand your annoyance. One of my oldest friends is just so self centred it's sad!! Anyway next time you invite her say "would you like to come to ..., if everyone is well that day, ha ha" and if she takes offence then TOUGH. If all her mishaps are genuine she should see the funny side. I have learnt not to put too much emotion into friendships as people do not mean to be selfish really they just get tied up in life and don't realise they are upsetting you. It doesn't sound personal as her dh says she does it to everyone.

toot · 21/07/2003 12:30

As I have been explaining on the opinions and advice conversation, it is a very painful event being dropped by a friend. If you must do this be as human as you can (no cold letters pushed through doors as happened to me). Is your friendship worth a chat to try and resolve things?

JLsmum · 21/07/2003 23:31

toot I don't wish to drop her, I've just grown very tired of her assuming that she can mess people around as much as she likes by being totally unreliable. I've been putting up with it for a long time now, and I have a feeling that she's been doing it to other people too. I'll admit that she always phones if she can't make it, but it's the regularity of her cancellations that is driving me up the wall. It's gotten to the point that if we have arranged something, I'll be wondering right up until the last moment whether she's going to cancel or not. And a couple of times she's been downright inconsiderate with the things she has done, like inviting us around for a meal and then UN-inviting us at the last minute because of some pathetic excuse. I believe the reason she gave me at the time was that she had been 'too busy' or something. Just not acceptable in my book.

I'm sorry you've had problems with friends toot and I know it can be painful but believe me, I've been more than patient with this woman for a while now and it makes me feel like c**p that she has such little consideration for me. If anything I will just have to distance myself a bit because I don't think she will change.. maybe someone needs to do it to her on a regular basis to make her see what it feels like.

OP posts:
CAM · 22/07/2003 09:44

I have been there in the past and I would, after so much of her doing this, stop making arrangements with her. It's simply not worth the hassle.

toot · 22/07/2003 14:29

Youre right it isnt acceptable. I think perhaps if you backed away a little, your friend may respond. If she cares then hopefully she`ll take a hint and be more reliable / positive when you do ask her places. Hope the situation resolves itself soon.

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