My flabber has been gasted!

[LookItsMeAgain]

I'm sitting listening to Elaine Paige on BBC R2 and there was a song from the musical "Oliver" called "Food Glorious Food" and straight after Elaine went into a list of foods that could be considered British and amongst the list of Yorkshire puddings and spotted dick, she listed "IRISH stew".

I mean really.

IRISH stew.

It even in the name that it's got nothing to do with British foods at all.

It has left me flabbergasted that a woman of even basic intelligence would think that something called IRISH anything would be considered a British food/meal. I think Elaine has more than basic intelligence.

Shocked so I am..

Then again,

Would people in Ireland have named it Irish Stew or would they have just called it 'dinner', though?

Northern Ireland is part of Britain, yes?

Is Irish Stew a dish that is exclusive to Southern Ireland?

Whether we called it dinner or IRISH stew, it's still not British.

Correct, NI is part of the island of Ireland and stews would have been made there and would make them British.

Nope op you are wrong. Plenty of British Irish stews in northern Ireland.

Isn’t Ireland part of the British Isles though? So depends on how you define British.

Northern Ireland is part of the UK, and isn't in Great Britain.

Paragraph one contradicts paragraph two.
I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make.

Have you got a chip on your shoulder about something? Maybe you could explain.

It's probably safe to say no Irish person defines anything Irish as being British. The British isles is a purely geographical term and not one you'd find many Irish use.

This!

Just because something is called “Irish stew” it doesn’t mean that it’s the same food as a stew you would get in Ireland.

What Brits call a Danish pastry isn’t particularly Danish, either…

The English (and Welsh, Scots and Cornish) all had sheep and potatoes as well. Maybe you're actually eating English stew? Or, as potatoes had to be discovered, brought back and recognised as edible, it's actually a poorly seasoned Spanish Stew?

Even though NI is not classed as Great Britain. The whole of Ireland is included in the British isles.

I've got terrible news about Toad in the Hole, OP

That does not mean it is appropriate to refer to something that is Irish as being British

I'm Irish and I think you've got the wrong end of the stick OP. Isn't Irish stew made with mutton as opposed to beef stew so it's a particular type of dish. It's the name of that type of stew and I think it would have been a dish of many people's childhood so I don't think it matters what it's called or where it comes from.

'a bit of stew' I think :)

😂

But we don't have a direct adjective for the UK or for people from the UK so we use British.

I find 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and northern Ireland' the easiest way to remember.
So NI is part of the UK but not GB.

@PollyPeptide not everyone does. It's a really important distinction!

I can't think of an occasion when everybody always does the same as everyone else. But it's clearly truth that a huge swathe of people in NI consider themselves to be British. Maybe Irish and British, like I'm English and British. There's no adjective to say they're United Kingdomish.

Northern Ireland is British and my Northern Irish relatives love Irish stew and cook it often.

True, but there are times when it matters more and in those times we should not take a blanket approach. And in the context of this post it is not true to say you can interchange British and Irish (not that I can think of anytime it ok to do so unless referring to a person who identifies as both)

Oh dear

Naughty naughty EP.