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Orange Is The New Black in Ambridge. Just ask Helen. But will anyone in The Archers ever ask her WHY?

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PseudoBadger · 12/06/2016 16:42

I reckon this thread will see us through the Euros, both footy and referendum. Await the clunky topical inserts here.

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JudyCoolibar · 29/06/2016 22:25

I'm puzzled about the situation with Jack. You would think Rob would have been going ape about the fact that he's never seen the baby and would have been at the hospital as soon as he was born, but it doesn't seem to have occurred to him.

ColdTeaAgain · 30/06/2016 00:21

Rob is he isn't really fussed about having a bond with his baby, it's all just an act. He wouldn't settle for regular visits, it has to be all or nothing. And if he gets nothing then he'll just play the poor, wounded victim act until he gets his way. I doubt it's even occurred to him to talk about a compromise. If Helen gets to keep Jack even some of the time, then in his mind he hasn't won. And for Rob it's all about winning.
Couldn't stand hearing his fake distress in court. Surely no judge would fall for that shit?!

Anna is very cold towards her mum, she insists on looking after her but not in a caring manner. It's all a bit weird.

TA has lost its appeal for me lately, HelRob story just lurches from one disappointment to the next. Pat and Tony take turns each week at who can be the biggest twat. Pip and Josh are in competition for most punchable face of Ambridge award. There's lots of little storylines happening but they just feel like fillers while we are forced to wait and wait for The Big Day. I'm not bothered if I miss an episode anymore and I used to always catch up on iplayer if I missed one. Surely it can only get better from here!

SmallLegsOrSmallEggs · 30/06/2016 00:37

There are too many mystery plots i don't give a shit about.
Anna....all backstory no present (maybe it reminds her of John? But not sure I care)
Toby Brighton. Could not care less.
Who will Pip choose. Am I bothered?
Who stole the bunting?
Ed's cows?
What happened to Henry's bedwettijg?

Don't really care what happens to Hellin apart from the message it sends out.

All I care about is the sinkhole.

expatvet · 30/06/2016 06:07

Joining in with the general frustration....why can't she just have a SHL who has nothing else to do with am bridge and will kick arse in court not turn into a flake....and lloyds so frustrating!

Scarydinosaurs · 30/06/2016 09:00

I took Anna's line entirely differently- I thought she meant ROB was going to do it again, not something to do with her.

I really hope she starts pulling the good stuff out the bag now.

redshoeblueshoe · 30/06/2016 09:09

ColdTea you put that so succinctly - maybe we should have a weekly vote Who is the biggest twat on TA this week ?

NotdeadyetBOING · 30/06/2016 09:13

Just want to say I share the general frustration expressed on this thread. The big 'mystery' at the end of the episode struck me as either:

  1. Some tosser of a man is going to get off scot free again; or
  2. My (pitiful wimmin issue - ED/nerves/insert as appropriate) is going to take over so I can't do my job properly proving that wimmin are a waste of time TASWAMA yet again…

WHY was Helen so useless??? At least she could have pointed out coldly that her husband was an excellent actor.

And absolutely - about the boarding school issue. Any FULE (prizes to anyone who gets that ref) would have done a bit of seriously basis homework there.

I want Knob's stoma bag to explode in court.

BitOutOfPractice · 30/06/2016 09:23

What the actual was that all about? For the love of all things holy. They had a great storyline and they are slowly just blowing it.

ppeatfruit · 30/06/2016 09:28

But for all that acting, Knob didn't get his hands on Jack (I noticed he called him the 'the baby' he stopped himself from blurting out Gideon) and it was a hearing not a trial so Anna,I assume , couldn't have asked him if he 'usually' needs a stick.

JessieMcJessie · 30/06/2016 09:54

Oh FFS. What a shit episode. Nuff has been said about the arguments of the lawyers but what really pisses me off is the way they portray judges in these scenes. This one was openly hostile to Helen and sympathetic to Rob, and the sarcasm towards Anna (who was, admittedly, being a bit flaky, was utterly OTT and unrealistic, particularly in a family court scenario.).

I am also annoyed about the words the SWs put into Helen's mouth, right down to her not being able to answer a question like "Did you hear everything?" Using the correct words. Yes she is traumatised, yes she would have been nervous but I simply do not accept it was in character for her not to have been able to follow a vaguely coherent line of argument.
And once again, Pat and Tony are not the types to shout out in Court- they have the brains to know this will not endear them to the judge.

I was also annoyed at this reference to Helen's "erratic upbringing"- wtf? Barristers can't just throw in statements like that without presenting evidence; are we supposed to believe that some sort of evidence for this was presented in the bits we didn't hear? If so the at the very least the other side of the story would have to have been heard and clearly the proposition is nonsense- having a sibling death does not mean H was erratically raised. It's just shoddy scriptwriting.

As to Anna's cryptic cliffhanger I imagined some sort of health issue (related to the purse forgetfulness) but suppose that would not tie in with Anna thinking she could stop it this time. Who knows, but it is an unnecessary distraction.

Rob's response about looking after a newborn "I have been fulfilling several roles for a long time now" was beyond laughable- why was it not challenged?

God I am annoyed!

mummytime · 30/06/2016 10:11

I wondered for a bit if the Judge (or opposition Lawyer) was Anna's abusive ex. But if that is the plot it is stupidly over the top.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 30/06/2016 10:25

I was thinking ED for Anna, because we had that comment about her not eating properly when the boyf left her. So I just assumed that it was going to be an ED that has waxed and waned for a while - although, that said, she did say 'it's coming back' right after agreeing to a take-away. So maybe depression, rather than ED?

But yeah: Mr North should not have been allowed to just reference 'erratic upbringing.' The judge shouldn't have been all 'take your time, would you like some water' to Rob, but openly hostile to both Helen and Anna. And when Mr North said that Pat and Tony would coach Henry, Anna should have said that the exact same thing applies to him spending time with Rob!

Gruach · 30/06/2016 10:54

I knew I was right not to listen!Grin

What on earth has happened? It's 13 minutes - and I'm sure there was a period in the past when the SWs were capable of presenting a vaguely coherent and convincing story.

Is this Fexit (SOC's fake exit) at play - history being re-written under our noses and everything wrenched out of shape? Of all the barristers in all the world they had to decide on one with added complications (because femaleHmm )which will compromise the case. Not getting my vote.

BitOutOfPractice · 30/06/2016 10:57

seek I was thinking "why would Anna have Erectile Disfunction?" for a moment then!

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 30/06/2016 11:05

BOOP Grin

prettywhiteguitar · 30/06/2016 11:36

I wish the sw would watch the good wife plenty of tension and drama without it being irritating

BitOutOfPractice · 30/06/2016 12:45

The whole point of TA for me was that there wasn't any tension and hardly any drama. An everyday story in fact.

TheAntiBoop · 30/06/2016 12:46

Me too BOOP. I just don't want to listen anymore.

TheSilveryPussycat · 30/06/2016 13:06

I thought the same for a moment, BOOP.

Last night's episode sounds dismal. Sigh.

trevortrevorslatterfry · 30/06/2016 13:20

notdead SOC is a wet and a weed Grin

Thanks all for keeping me up-to-date when I can't be arsed to listen

BitOutOfPractice · 30/06/2016 14:23

I'm still listening. But grimly. It reminds me of when I was 18 and decided I was going to read Homer because I was pretentious and I ground my way through it all even though I neither enjoyed nor understood it

simplyomitcelery · 30/06/2016 15:15

Has Jess ridden into town yet or is that something else to be screamed at my radio?

Gruach · 30/06/2016 15:22

Wonder if SOC is a Caryl Churchill fan. I've just finished reading the script of Escaped Alone - there's a "knife in kitchen" story. Strikingly similar. But it's made me glad Helen didn't actually kill him. And given a glimpse of how things might be, or have been, between Helen and Henry in the future.

(That's a definition of over-infested: feeling relief that one fictional character won't have to live through what another fictional character did.)

(Sorry, on a train; no one to talk to ...)

LillianGish · 30/06/2016 15:22

The trouble is in order for the plot to work everyone has to be totally and unbelievably useless. SHL falls to pieces for some mysterious and unspecified reason, judge is hostile to Hellin from the off for no apparent reason, Helen continues to be totally useless further confirming the picture Knob is painting of her, Pat and Tony are unable to sit quietly in court and Knob sits twiddling his moustache in the corner as everything goes his way. This plot was conducted with such subtlety at the start you could barely see what was happening (indeed some listeners didn't believe anything was happening). Now it's just laughable. What next? Will Henry run into court towards his mother on the video screen, trip and accidentally unmask the judge who will turn out to be Ursula (or possibly Bruce) in disguise ... "And I'd have got away with it too if it hadn't been for you meddling kids".

ppeatfruit · 30/06/2016 15:41

Please can someone enlighten me as to the identity of "Maggie" Who was mentioned yesterday. Is she the social worker or standing in for the solicitor? I don't remember her being mentioned before am I right?

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