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Babyzen yo-yo vs Cybex Eazy s twist+2

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Grindmygearss · 14/07/2023 09:35

I’ve been looking over and over at these two pushchairs and really don’t know which one to settle for!!

obviously love the appeal of the yo-yo being cabin sized, lightweight and small but tbh I don’t do that much flying although feel like it’s handy just to have for when we do.

The Cybex Eezy twist appeals to me slightly more as you can parent face in it and still folds up small, however it does look clunkier than the yo-yo when folded.

I’m really wanting a pushchair
-that folds up very small for my car boot
-easy to fold and unfold
-lightweight
-good for tubes and travelling around london
-parent facing (eezy does/yo-yo doesn’t)

thanks!!

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Grindmygearss · 15/07/2023 20:43

Bump anyone?

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cakeandteajustforme · 15/07/2023 21:08

Hi, I can't give exact reviews of both but had a cybex priam and a baby zen yo-yo when mine was little. They were very different prams but from a quick look I would go with the cybex for everyday use.

We really liked that both worked with the cybex car seat (when you got the yo-yo adapters), and the lightness of the yo-yo was great, but if you're walking around on any kind of surface that's not inside smooth, the cybex wheels are a million times better, and the ability to change handle height, get coffee cups/bag clips on the cybex handle is much nicer than the really round handle of the yo-yo.
Hope that helps.

cakeandteajustforme · 15/07/2023 21:14

Also the recline button of the cybex much easier and nicer than the yo-yo straps. We used that seat type from about 8 weeks as baby had reflux so couldn't lie flat in the cot attachment.

Grindmygearss · 15/07/2023 21:15

Hi @cakeandteajustforme thanks so much for replying, it really does help.

neither are for everyday use- more as a spare, we already have the Uppababy Cruz which I love but I just need something smaller to fit in the boot with a wheelchair on occasional use of taking my parents out. I also wanted something small and lightweight for when I’m travelling into London and abroad- hence the yo-yo.

But apparently the Cybex eezy twist can’t take bags on the handles? That put me off a bit. It doesn’t help that I haven’t tried either out and I’ve seen them on marketplace for around £300 so still a lot for my budget.

Can I ask what age did they both last up until? hoping to get the most out of it! Thanks so much

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cakeandteajustforme · 15/07/2023 21:19

Ah in that case would def get the yo-yo. It folds up lovely and small, perfect second pram.

cakeandteajustforme · 15/07/2023 21:19

We used both till 3 (then Covid...)

HappyAsASandboy · 15/07/2023 21:24

I have the Cybex. I have taken it on an aeroplane as cabin baggage, though I have no idea whether that was just the flight agent being generous.

I love it. It parent faces, if folds easily, it swivels on the spot, the basket is big, the whole thing is small, I hang all sorts on the handle using foam-padded Carabina hooks. The seat reclines to perfectly flat (can't hang bags on handles then, but you can balance them on the footrest and wedge/tie them on!), big hood when extended.

I have had several prams and pushchairs over four kids and 13 years, and the Cybex Easy Twist 2 is my hands-down favourite.

ferntwist · 15/07/2023 21:26

The BabyZen is amazing! So handy, not just for flying but for squeezing and breezing through all sorts of small city spaces, cafes, Tube and more.

Grindmygearss · 15/07/2023 21:31

Thank you @cakeandteajustforme and @ferntwist it does look tiny when folded and very small and nippy when I’ve seen them out. I just worry about it being so low, but that doesn’t seem to be an issue with anyone or the kids I’ve seen!

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Namechangedforthis25 · 15/07/2023 21:34

Yo yo all the way

we bought it for our first to use on the plane - 3 years ago

now use it with our second. It’s such an easy, light, convenient pram - perfect for fitting into restaurants, trains, buses, shops with narrow doorways, black cabs, just keeping in the car for emergencies

yes it’s not parent facing but to be honest even now my 7 month doesn’t care - she wants to look out and you can see her through a screen at the top

we bought it as a second pram but tbh I use it so frequently it’s overtaken my icandy

Namechangedforthis25 · 15/07/2023 21:34

Hands down one of our top purchases ever

Grindmygearss · 15/07/2023 21:35

@HappyAsASandboy thank you!! I’ve just been waiting for someone with an eezy twist 2 to respond! I’ve heard plenty of good things about the yo-yo but none about the Cybex which I think I want deep down.
parent facing is really important to me and thanks for the tip about the bags- very helpful :)

have you taken this on the tube or around London at all? Also I’m pretty short, is the handle suited more for taller people and is it still quite bulky when folded. It does look a bit clunky and heavy once folded from what I’ve seen online. Sorry for so many questions

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Starryeyes1984 · 15/07/2023 21:35

Throwing another one out there, we got a Mamas and Papas Airo with the newborn pack off fb marketplace. Such a great purchase. Folds up tiny and really lightweight. As a pushchair it's facing outwards only (newborn pack is inward facing) but we got adaptors to clip the cybex car seat on it when we're out and about and that's inward facing.

HelpMebeok · 15/07/2023 21:35

Have you tried pushing them both. I was set on the yo-yo but hated it in the shop when I pushed it round. Baby felt very low and I hated that it didn't have a handle bar that adjusted. Too narrow and low for me. Just wasn't comfortable to push

Grindmygearss · 15/07/2023 21:42

No I haven’t @HelpMebeok and I over excitedly expressed interest in purchasing one (a yo-yo) but honestly think it’s a lot of money to hand over for something I’m not sure about. Now I don’t want to let them down but equally I shouldn’t get it if I’m not sure? It’s £300.

Is it as low as the bugaboo bee? I have that as a spare and hate it. I really don’t like how low it is for my child so would I feel the same with the yo-yo? Perhaps I should go to John Lewis first before I make any decisions. Thanks for the advice :)

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Grindmygearss · 15/07/2023 21:44

Is it an umbrella fold @Starryeyes1984 ? I don’t know why but I’m so against umbrella folds! Sorry just read it folds up small so will have a look thank you 😊

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Starryeyes1984 · 15/07/2023 21:49

The Airo feels quite low as well but maybe that's an inevitable feature of ultra compact prams. I don't mind it as I'm not so tall. We have a silver cross but it's huge and with a second child wanted something compact to throw in the car. Specifically wanted one that I could attach the car seat to and which was suitable from birth upwards. I would go to a shop and try them before committing to purchase.

Grindmygearss · 15/07/2023 21:56

See it’s comments like this that make me want the yo-yo @Namechangedforthis25 !! I really feel like I’m missing out from what you and others have said. Honestly I’ve heard so many good things and feel like it’s so compact I really should have one for emergencies or just to keep in the car! Which is basically what I want. Do you know if it’s as low as the bee?

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HappyAsASandboy · 16/07/2023 07:11

I have used the Easy Twist 2 in all sorts of places.

We live rurally, so it's done a few trips across lumpy fields (not perfectly suited, but managed and didn't break).

Many trips to London (perfect - quick to fold if you need to, easy to carry one handed when folded, light to carry up stairs on the underground, can fold it and shove under a restaurant table or behind your legs on the tube or hand it in to a cloakroom).

Train travel - small when folded, slim to push up the aisle of train not busy. I can fit it in to a four-seat section sideways and my other kids and I sit on the seats around it if I need to. I've never tried to lift it on to the shelf above heads, but I suspect it would be too heavy for me, but doable for my tall and strong husband.

It is small for packing in the boot of both my small car (takes half a Golf boot). I sometimes put it it the front or back footwell, but that would depend on seat positions and car shape.

It the baby/toddler is sitting up forward facing (most of the time for me now) then the centre of gravity is perfectly central on the frame and I can add quite heavy bags to the handles - I have a family picnic bag that weighs a lot when full but hangs perfectly behind the seat. If the seat is parent facing, then you can get a lot into the basket from the front. If the seat is reclined fully when forward facing, the centre of balance comes way back towards the parent, though my beefy toddler is heavy now! It is more stable reclined from parent-facing. It's never tipped over or anything close though!

The reason I bought it was for the seat position - it can sit apart perfectly upright. Most buggies, particularly ones which use straps to pull to adjust the recline, can't come anywhere near to upright, and I had a baby that liked to sit rather than recline. I had a big bulky Joie travel system that was perfect for sitting upright, but looking for a smaller pram with an upright seat was hard. I tried the Joie Pact (folded small and lovely travel bag) but that was so so flimsy and didn't really sit up straight anyway (strap mechanism). The Cybex is perfect for this - it is a lift handle on the back of the seat that stops at preset points, one of which is very nearly 90°!).

KatyBee30 · 10/01/2024 16:26

Hi, @Grindmygearss just wondering which one you want for in the end? Do you like what you chose?

I’m currently in the exact same predicament as you but think I’m leaning towards the s twist because of the recline and upright sitting position and the parent facing option.

Grindmygearss · 11/01/2024 00:02

hi sorry for the late post @KatyBee30 I’ve just seen this and happen to have my phone in my hand! I was fortunate enough to get both in excellent condition second hand for decent prices :D

I’ll start with the yoyo which is what I got first. Initially I loved it when I switched. It was a bit tricky to open and fold but I did get the hang of it after a while but I loved how small it folded and finally left room for shopping in the boot! It’s really nice to use when shopping as it’s so light and nippy and can easily be pushed with one hand but I also hated how small the basket is and you can’t really hang anything off it. I took him for walks but didn’t like it as it was so bumpy and low and he was always leaning to one side like he was going to slip so I kept it for car use only. I added a sheepskin footmuff as the weather got colder but it was such a pain to fasten it when he was inside I then bought the cybex!

The cybex is so similar in terms of pushing around smoothly and nipping around shops and I love how it faces both ways! I now have him facing me and much prefer it especially over the busy Xmas period. The basket is slightly bigger but you still can’t really hang anything off the handle. I think he looks more comfortable with the seat positions and it has more support on the legs as it’s longer. Bit of a pain to fold and open but I thinks it’s just the sheepskin footmuff tbh. I love how much easier it is to strap him in and I also like that it has the bumper bar. I do really like the yoyo, it’s lovely and light to push around but I’m much happier with the cybex. My mum prefers the yoyo though! I feel like it has everything I felt was missing in the yoyo and I just feel more comfortable when he’s in there knowing it’s slightly higher, has the bar to rest on, he’s safely strapped in and upright (he always leans to one side in the yoyo and looks uncomfortable) and can face either way! I also like that it has bigger wheels at the back so doesn’t feel so rickety on uneven pavements and just generally feels more sturdy.

definitely get the cybex if those are the things that are important to you. See if you can get one second hand so you’re not losing out if you don’t like it. You can always resell!

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HelpMebeok · 11/01/2024 07:51

Has the cyber got an adjustable handle?

Grindmygearss · 11/01/2024 15:50

@HelpMebeok no adjustable handle but I’m a shortie at 5’2 and have no issues with the handle bar height!

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helplesshopeless · 11/01/2024 16:13

Sorry to butt in here! Could you also advise whether a buggy board would be compatible with the cybex? Thanks in advance!

HappyAsASandboy · 11/01/2024 18:33

The Cybex is so easy to push that the fixed handle doesn't cause a problem for short or tall people. You can literally push it with your fingers as it is so smooth.

I use mine in London regularly with a chunky 3.5 year old in it plus bags in the basket. I can pick the whole thing up myself, toddler and bags included, and carry it up/down the stairs on the underground. It is heavy, but it is so narrow and the frame so accessible for hands, that I can carry it like that myself.

I've had so many buggies over the last 13 years and the Cybex is the best, for every day and for travel. If I god forbid had another newborn, I'd buy a soft carrycot and use the Cybex from birth. Its fab.