Should I swap my Bugaboo Bee+ for a Babyzen Yoyo?

[mrsfrumble]

Or will I live to regret it? I think a Yoyo would be very practical for us at the moment, but I have a sentimental attachment to the Bee. So, a few questions from those who have a Yoyo...

Would it be reasonably comfortable for a very tall 2.8 year old?

Is it comfortable to push if you're a tall parent?

Are they really THAT easy to fold up and down?

And if you've recently sold a 2010 Bee, how much did you get for it? I had a quick gander at Ebay, but it awash with hot pink ones which I'm guessing may have a bit of an impact on resale value. Ours is a nice neutral black.

Finally, is it daft to be so attached to a pushchair? ILs bought it for us when we were expecting DC1 and it was my pride and joy. Still love it but we need something really small and light for lots of travelling.

I think I can answer this question as I have both puschairs.

Depends. My DC is just over 2 and half years old and has a tall body (that's what I'm told) but not tall on the height charts. However looks taller then other children his age I've seen. Hope this makes sense. He sits comfortably in the pushchair. However, if want to use the seat fully recline (sleeping) my DCs head fits inside the hood just about. If you just want your child to sit upright then I think there are no problems. I compared the seat height with mclaren quest and bugaboo bee plus and yoyo has the shortest seat, next comes maclaren quest and the tallest is bugaboo bee plus.

I think it will absolutely be comfortable to push for a tall parent. My only complaint with yoyo is the handlebars are too high and I'm around 5 ft 3. With cheaper strollers the handlebars are lower i have found. I always wonder whether the inventor had a tall parent in mind when designing this puschair as my hands come high when pushing it. Oh and as there is one continuous handlebar you can push the yoyo one handed like the bee!

There is a certain knack to opening and closing, once you get it it is easy to open and close. I think one of the official ad videos for yoyo demonstrates this well. Personally, I keep admiring the way when you flick it open it opens itself out. When you first try mastering it you think there are so many steps but once you understand hw then you do it in one continuous motion.....and I think i like it better then the way bee opens and closes. I can explain them if you want?

I haven't sold my bee for a couple of reasons. 1) like you I am still attached to it as it was first pushchair as silly as it may sound to other people and I have good memories. Also, I would like to use it in the future. If I was travelling out all day with others I would take bee. If I was travelling out all day by myself where I had to keep opening and closing pushchair I would take yoyo. Also, yoyo is not suitable from birth and is designed to be used as second pushchair/travelling.

If you can, I would keep both yoyo and bee for now if you are going to use it in future.

The other thing to point out with yoyo is that when the child moves forward the seat moves forward and that's how it's been designed not sure why. Don't be alarmed as you think the puschair will topple but it doesn't. It is a bit annoying with an active child as you're trying to get them to sit back in the seat. I have a feeling my DC finds it a bit too reclined even in its most upright position.

One final thing, if you can try to find a store to test the buggy out with your child before buying so you can be sure it's what you want.

Sorry for rambling on. Hth and feel free to ask any more questions:)

Sorry didn't answer your main question directly. No, I don't think you should swap bee for yoyo. You should keep both.

If you really cant keep both then do test the yoyo in person with DC at a shop to ensure its what you really want/ meets needs before parting with the bee.

Hi Beige, thank you, that was very helpful. I should have mentioned that we have Phil & Teds double as well as the Bee (and a 9 MO as well as the tall toddler). Which is why I feel like I should sell the Bee as three pushchairs seems excessive! Also I can't really afford the Yoyo so need to raise funds.

The P&T is my day-to-day walking-miles-round-city pushchair, but I use the Bugaboo for short trips, swapping the children around so toddler can walk or baby can go in the sling. Pushchairs have to be folded on buses here, but there isn't actually any luggage storage and I'm fed up with trying to wedge the folded Bugaboo between seats while the bus is moving and I'm holding on the children. That and the the fairly frequent air travel we do makes the size of the folded Yoyo very appealing.

I can't see myself using the P&T as a single once the toddler is walking everywhere so am tempted to hang on to the Bugaboo for the future if the Yoyo really isn't suitable for heavy use. £300 does seem very expensive though!

I need to decide by next week when we'll be visiting the UK as Yoyos aren't available here in the US. I get the feeling that if I had unlimited cash and space I'd own about 15 different pushchairs for every occasion. Sad...

Does this help?

I had both until recently and have just sold the Bee because I prefer the YoYo and never used the Bee (I do have other pushchairs though).

For what you are saying above the YoYo may actually suit you better especially for your travelling. If you were doing a long trip I suspect you would reach for the P&Ts. I think Beige is right in that I wouldn't be without a bigger pushchair but I have indeed swapped a Bee for a YoYo (I had both for around 10 months so it wasnt a quick decision but the YoYo has been in permanent use whereas the Bee hardly went out).

When someone asked this question before I initially said theres absolutely no relation between the two pushchairs, but the more I saw them together I came to realise that if you ignore the fact the Bee parent faces, that actually there were a lot of similarities and in many ways the YoYo "won". Its smaller, neater folded, easy to sling on your bag, fits into any small space eg car, home, bus, shopping trolley, car footwell. The recline is really decent for a small pushchair. The hood is functional but it works. The raincover is hopeless but theres other options. The basket holds more than you think! The fold and open is so easy. The handlebar heights at max are similar (the YoYo is fixed high though). Yes you pay more for the Bee and its clear you get more for your money, but for every day use, I dont think you gain much more from the Bee if you dont need parent facing.

My 4 and a half year old was riding in the YoYo not long ago, and my 3 year old is its regular occupant (and he still naps in it).

I wouldnt use the YoYo for heavy use but its done a few all day outings. For a lot of walking you need something better, but its definitely worth a look for the travelling and to use alongside your P&T.

I see you have a P&T as well now I understand your dilemma better. Well, I dunno if this helps but one of the reasons why I bought a yoyo even though I had the bee is that I was fed up with pushchair getting in the way on the bus or trying to fold down and keep it somewhere. Like the problems you faced there isn't any space to put the buggy on a crowded bus and even though the bee is small compared to other pushchairs it still seemed to get in other people's ways especially elderly ladies! Don't get me wrong i only travelled a few times on a bus as the bad experiences was enough to put me off!

Also I got fed up of how heavy the bee was to carry- i know it is one of the lightest around. I got fed up of it taking up half of my hallway so I put it out of sight and it was a mission to take out.,I got fed up of having to collapse it down at restaurants and for the staff to suggest it should be put other side of the restaurant. I got fed up of it taking all of my car boot space and wished I could put it in the passenger seat......well that's when I thought enoughs enough and bought yoyo and I haven't used my bee yet but then I haven't been on any long day trips either. Despite all this moaning i like my bee!

And another thing, I have worn the yoyo like a shoulder bag one side and taken toddler for walk- I wouldn't recommend this often as it did make my back hurt! Can't do this with the bee!!!

Haven't used it (yoyo) for air travel but I don't know how I could manage without taking a puschair as cabin luggage. With the yoyo you can! If you are going to travel alot by air- the yoyo would be better.

I hope I'm helping you make a better decision and not confusing you by this post.

Tiggywunkle, where is the link with the kids sitting in the yoyo that might also help mrsfrumble?

Just read by post back and it's seems I went on a ramble again...sorry. In a nutshell, I was meant to say all the problems with bee were resolved by getting the yoyo and I haven't used the bee since but then I haven't been on long day trips either. I still like my bee but so far since getting the yoyo I have only ever used the yoyo.

Errm This one? or This one?

Tiggy I meant the first one as I had only seen that but just seen the second link and that looks useful too. Thanks for the links and hope Mrsfrumble finds it useful as I did.