Which is genuinely the lightest/easiest tandem double buggy to push with a heavy toddler & 6 month old baby?

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I tried the Phil & Teds Explorer, it pushes like a tank. I have an ABC Adventure Buggy which I love but it's also really quite heavy to steer.

Are there any other options I have missed out on? If I'd had a wide enough front door I'd have gone for a Nipper side by side, but my front door is 70cm wide at the very most.

Any ideas?

I would hazard a guess that there isn't very much you could class as light. I have a Jane Twone and it is one handable 80% of the time at best. That's with effort required. The iCandy Peach is also easy to push for a tandem but hard to get hold of new and no good to you in the old format as the lower seat doesn't go upright.

Have you tried out in a mountain buggy duet in a shop? Or maybe a +one?

I loved the idea of the Mountain Buggy +one BUT both the toddler and the baby nap in the pushchair so I thought it would be out of the question?

love my duet!

currently pushing a 2.5 year old & chunky 10 month old

bit hefty to lift in and out of car but easy to fold/unfold

wheels big enough to take bumpy terrain & can even bump in and out of train with it

my front door is narrow too as had my eyes on a nipper initially too

Yeah if they both sleep I can't see how a +one could work. Bother.

Can you at least try a Duet somewhere? I know some people have had issues with pulling to the side of the heavier child etc. but others just straight up love them and find the push great.

My Adventure Buggy was way way easier to steer than my awful "pulling one way" Duet. Never mind the fact the children were too close and the eldest annoyed the younger, poking, accidentially kicking, putting his hood up and down, the bumper bar kept falling off, the raincover opening is too low etc etc etc Oh and I ended up with serious back ache for a week because of trying to keep the Duet in line.
I wonder if the new narrow Nipper would wiggle through - because of the triangular footprint of the pushchair, some people put the nose through first, then one side of the rear wheels through before the other if that makes sense? The chassis I believe is just slightly narrower than 72cms because someone asked me to check that the widest point wasn't the middle, and its definitely the wheels that are the widest.

I did look at the Nipper V2 but I couldn't get it through my front door - hence my ask

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Asking about Tandems. If I had a side by side I'd have to leave it outside on the street while taking the children indoors then go out, collapse it then bring it in.

I can imagine doing that in the rain could get very wearing especially with two little ones. Also there is the real risk of the pushchair getting stolen as I take the children up to the flat (1st floor).

A side by side is just not going to work. The duet sounds good in principle but flawed and it's not a tandem.

Tiggywunkle: re the Adventure Buggy, I can get it into my little car boot if I take the front wheel and the handlebar off, it takes 2 minutes and looks surprisingly compact.

I have a city mini jogger and it is very light and fits through my very narrow Edwardian hall. Huge basket too

Phil & Ted's Sport works for us (an old model off E-bay from 3 years ago). Used for DS1 and DS2 and now for DS2 and DD (currently 3 and 1) so has passed through all age groups.

You need to make sure tyres are well pumped up, then it's pretty light to push. Nothing's perfect though, esp as we load it up with a lot of baggage as well.

Very quick and easy to fold up, which is a bonus.

My kids nap in it perfectly happily. I've never reclined seats for napping in any pram, it seems to annoy them. They nap sitting up like I do given the chance

The city mini is definitely too wide which is a shame. What width do you actually have to fit through?

Did you look at the new new V2... The one that's literally come out in the last month ie the narrow V2 or just the V2? Just checking :)

I couldn't get my adventure buggy into my car :( I couldn't get the handlebar off easily. It was way too long. You are fortunate. I didn't think the Adventure buggy was hard to steer - I found Phil&Teds heavier and more problematic especially with more than one napping child. The lightest tandems I have pushed where the children can nap are the Peach Blossom, Kidz Kargo Duelette (Smyths Dimples Duo), Jane Twone, Kolcraft Contours and Britax B-Dual.

I dont think the mountain buggy duet is flawed at all! mine is perfect( in my opinion anyway) you dont need a tandem when the duet is only 63cm wide! its not a tandem, but I have yet to find a place where it doesnt fit.

Tiggywunkle: I checked out the Nipper v2, but it's still 72cm wide. I.e. the exact width of my front door! I couldnt get past it in order to unload it. With regards to the adventure buggy, it took me a couple of goes to get the handlebar off but now it's a breeze. I sprayed WD40 liberally over all the spring latches when I got the buggy!

It's a bit of a squeeze to get past the adventure buggy single, which is 62cm wide but doable.

So basically there is the Jane Twone? And the Britax B-Dual. I saw one of those yesterday, the mum looked like she was really struggling, having said that, it was very heavily laden.

I love the Nipper, we have had the single for my DS since he was a little baby. If only the doubles were narrower!

What a shame re the Nipper. The B-Dual might be too wide too unless you remove the wheel guards. The Jane Twone is easy to push...very easy...and neat folded. But access to the lower child is really poor. I couldn't even get my arm in to wipe my baby's nose. My eldest went underneath and needed rather toilet and it was a nightmare as the baby was asleep on top. It took two of us some time to pull her out. But ihateparties loves hers and it works well for her children.

one of the mum's on the school run has an i-candy... twins though...

I love my Twone even more since I obtained a second main seat for it (the sockets are the same)... it is completely not even remotely recommended but I trust my own judgement in this case for my own children... Even with the proper set up the push is very easy but the lower child does have very compromised space and as tiggy says access is an issue. The younger child has to be underneath really unless you will always have the facility to remove the top seat to load and unload. I have the same front door problem so was also tied to tandems all except the duet...