BeePlus or p+t explorer?

[PetiteMum]

if you had to pick one which would you? I am trying to decide, and have one DS 9mo. I love the bee but it's not great in the park...... Mind you only go there once a week or so? Hmmmmmmmm

Depends on you needs.

The bee is small, rear facing option and portable but rubbish on uneven ground.

The P&T is big, can be converted to a double in future and great on rough ground but not so good for public transport and there are definately better single 3 wheelers out there.

How about getting the Bee and something cheap from EBay for the park or walks (sand,mud,woods etc).

Hm, don't have the room for two...... Which other 3 wheelers do u recommend?

There are loads.

Is the rear facing an issue?

Rear facers I would say -
Britax b smart 3
Bebecar Icon
Jane Slalom R

Normal I would say-
Nipper 360
Slalom pro
03 Sport
Mountain Bugggy Urban

Three wheelers are big though, I don't actually think they have perfected a small one so if you don't have the space I would go for something smaller.

Actualy just noticed yoru DS' age, do you already have a pushchair or have you been carrying him?

Hauck Infinity would be a good compramise as it has good walking tyres but although big is not huge and the seat faces rear or forward!

Mountain buggy breeze is on offer in the outlet section on www.mountainbuggy.com is normally over £400 and now costs £199 including snuggled bag and bottle holder.
It's the more compact mountain buggy so not too big in town and shops. Manageable for bus and off road enough for the park. Build quality is fantastic. I'm selling my bee and have ordered one as the bee is not going to work so well off road as the mountain buggy. I think we will find the mb breeze great for the beach or forest and also small enough for the bus.

Hey monkeys punk! I'm doing the same, selling the bee as it is not great off road.... I hope I don't regret it as I love that pushchair and it was fab..... Does that mountain buggy have a fixed wheel though? Wouldn't that be annoying when trying to manoeuvre in shops?

It is the one with fixed wheel, so just press the handlebar down lightly and turn. It's just how the old landrover worked that I had for dd2 so I won't mind that at all and tbh makes it much better on the pavements round our way. They're full of holes and have a ridiculously steep Camber that strains your wrist in swivel wheel mode anyway.

Ps the bee was fab but I am really missing the off road capability when travelling so I have to do it.
My main everyday luxury pram is the cameleon though so I really can't complain. I'm keeping that and the MB Breeze is my umbrella fold alternative.

the airbuggy is a great compact air-tyre three wheeler can go anywhere and really great on the beach but has small wheels so really nippy around town much lighter than the MBU, i cant remember how heavy the breeze was.
i am a big fan of mountain buggies and bugaboos, i have two bees (the bee and bee+) i prefer the older bee and i fold the wings behind the seat fabric, the wheels are nicer on the bee+ but the handle rattles on bumpy pavements, i have had quite a few p&t and MBs singles and doubles over the years for my older children, the MBs are much better quality TBH. i currently also have a p&t twin and a MBUD for my twins.

Breeze is said to be 8.5kg weight.

Thanks Mellie, is the reclining mechanism on the mb's annoying with the two straps on a daily basis? I am so used to the ease of the bee! But perhaps I have been spoilt. Hm...never heard of air buggy, will check it out thanks!

I love the bee. Find it fine in our park but the ground isn't particularly rough there. It does struggle with proper rough terrain but if you need something light, easy to fold and nippy around town its brilliant !

I've seen airbuggys advertised as the lightest 3 wheeler on the market. Which at 10kg is quite untrue. There are many alternatives which are lighter. Instep nipper is 7 kg

Thanks monkey punk! Yes I was a bit skeptical at the air buggy, not popular which is for a reason! I want to stick to a good brand and build quality as well. I know nothing will measure up to bugaboo, but am actually getting rather sucked in by the mb swift! It looks sturdy and seems compact enough for small shops, am I right?

I really love the look of the MB swift - but I have bought the Breeze myself (in the outlet section at £199 with FREE snuggle bag too!)
MB Breeze
as it is older stock (presumably before the "Phil and Ted's" take-over).
Also because although sometimes I take the bus - more often I want an off roader for holidays rather than a city pram) but this Breeze is said to be compact enough for travel whilst having the fixed wheel I know will be best for my needs.
It was their only compact model for many years - so lots of people did just get used to pressing the handlebar lightly enough to just raise the front wheel to turn and managed fine with it in the city. I'm sure swivel wheel is more convenient in town - but for me not worth spending the extra £200 to get it!!!
Hoping mine will arrive today so will let you know how it is once it arrives.

PS - I have viewed the video of the MB twin strap reclining system - it looks pretty neat to me - looks easier to sit the back upright again after reclining using this system compared to the typical "one strap" versions on other brands.

Just got my MB Breeze - I LOVE it! - Very nifty - just about to fill the tyres. Very pleased seatis large enough to fit almost 3y old - and probably until he's 5y if needed. This Breeze makes an excellent alternative to the Land Rover - as they're extinct now (well so is the Breeze too - except for this very special offer in the MB Outlet www.mountainbuggy.com )
It will be fine in shops nice compact wheel base - and not too hard to steer at all - you just have to be more used to older fashioned buggys without swivels - it's not heavy to steer at all though - and the handlebar is lovely - height adjustable and nice rubber stuff (I HATE Foam handlebars - have had sensory issues in my hands since c-section almost 3y ago, and now have a thing against dry towels -tissue paper (kitchen/toilet/tissue), and foam!)
I would highly recommend this buggy to the family that like to get out and about doing active things at weekends, and need an all terrain compact enough for travel / holidays.
I sat my 7y old in - just to test for size - she fits okay - although the hood is touching her head - so it's still got growing room for DS! Yipee!
I know there may be folk thinking if DS is nearly 3 shouldn't he be walking - but sometimes we do really LONG walks/hikes (8 miles or so) and so this buggy will be perfect not only for him but to help carry the refreshment supplies for everyone.
I'm very happy - and you might want to consider one of these instead of the swift just because of the excellent price.
The Breeze is from the New Zealand Factory - and is Made in New Zealand (not china like the newer models since P&T takeover - so you can be assured of fabulous quality.

Oh wow, thanks for the detailed account monkeyspunk! I'm happy you found the right one for you, sounds fab. I think I'm going to go for the swift as I really can't do fixed wheel. Same, it really is a bargain, but glad you got it! I am also looking at the nipper single, as they are made by the same company?

Nipper is really light, and has rear wheel suspension. Fabrics are a bit thinner but still ok. Pockets on hood are nice.
It's quite a faff to fold which is why its not for me. Would not be practical to fold up for bus or train. Is lovely to push though.