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Would you object to this planning application?

16 replies

maize · 07/07/2010 16:31

Had a note passed through my door about this and wondered if anyone could advise. The note is asking me to object.

I live in a terraced Edwardian house, in an area full of terraced Edwardian houses! The houses face onto the street and parking is on the street only. Currently parking is fine because its not an area where everyone owns a car - low income, lots of students, excellent public transport links etc. My street is quite long and a dead end.

There are currently some houses being built on the street where a workshop was demolished, I think there are around 5 and each has parking. Not mega keen on them but there you go.

There is also another application for 19 more 3 bed houses to be built at the bottom of the street which is currently a disuesed warehouse. The application includes 27 parking spaces for the houses as well.

I am a bit !! at so many extra houses being built. The area is no great beauty but it seems a shame to add so many new builds (which are not in the style of the existing houses) Also very worried about the parking situation with effectively 25 more households being added to the street. Also traffic would increase surely? The street currently has speedbumps and with the cars parked on the street you have to pass single file so it can feel a bit busy sometimes.

But then the other part of me knows that people need somewhere to live and that having parking in the houses may help things.

Oh and I own my home and have lived here for four years now is that makes a difference!

What would you do? Any input, or experience of a new development in an older area most welcome. Thanks

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belledechocolatefluffybunny · 07/07/2010 16:35

They have to build houses somewhere and there's allocated parking for each new house. I wouldn't complain to be honest, it's not as if they are building them at the bottom of your 7ft garden and blocking the sunlight into your living room (yes, someone did and they were able to do this).

scurryfunge · 07/07/2010 16:36

The parking issue shouldn't really affect you if the new builds have their own parking.

What would you prefer the disused warehouse to be?

Traffic will certainly increase...would it be reasonable to ask if the planners have considered alternative access?

maize · 07/07/2010 16:41

The other new houses do overshadow my house actually - when we saw the plans we did not really realise . They are set back from the road and so are in line with my garden not the house.

The traffic really is a worry. No possibility of any alternative access it is a very densly populated/housed area.

I actually thought the warehouse was still in use, there are also some garages down there that will be demolished.

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scurryfunge · 07/07/2010 16:50

Perhaps you could ask the council to have parking permits for residents on your road.

squashedfrogs · 07/07/2010 16:51

You can comment on the application without actually objecting. This happens a lot where people do not mind the principle of the proposed development but have concerns relating to particular issues, i.e. "I have no objection to the construction of xx number of new houses but I have concerns that this will increase the volume of traffic using what is already a busy/narrow/single lane (delete as applicable ) road." or "I have concerns that there would be insufficient parking within the site and this would lead to on-street parking on neighbouring roads which are already busy."

That way you are highlighting issues which should be considered as part of the decision making process but it is a rational and reasoned point you are making rather than a NIMBY-type "I don't want any development near me ever regardless of what it is".

Even if you are not sure whether something you are concerned about is relevant, if you just draw the planners attention to it, they will have to consider it if it is and they should explain why it isn't if not (hope that makes sense!). If you don't make any comments because you think that something isn't relevant then it may not be given the consideration that it should.

ivykaty44 · 07/07/2010 16:56

it will be a problam when 27 houses and 5 houses generate68 cars with only 32 parking spaces.

There is nothing to stop you objecting unless they build basement garage spaces undernieth the houses being proposed -that way two spaces could be built in with each house and then there would be no reason why parking would be an issue

maize · 07/07/2010 17:18

ivykaty this is my worry with the parking, if people have more than one car. Friends live on a new development that is chocca with cars because it is so tight for space.

I will discuss with DH when he gets home - certainly worth raising some comments on the application if nothing else. Thanks for the input

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Gentleness · 07/07/2010 17:34

having lived on a really similar narrow road, I would certainly object.

parking could well become a nightmare. also access for emergency vehicles. we frequently had people double park, blocking the road, to unload stuff near their house. ambulances couldn't get out because more than one car had turned into the top of the road already. large vehicles couldn't do 3pt turns so builders trucks created an utter nightmare of reversing beeps, blocked road and long delays before you could even leave your house.

i think you can probably pick up how I felt about that proposal... if they had provided a realistic number of parking spaces and turning circles, and said there'd be alternative access for the builders vehicles I wouldn't have worried - need more houses somewhere of course!

Elllie · 07/07/2010 23:34

Object on the basis the development is too high in density.

Fizzylemonade · 08/07/2010 12:29

Technically you cannot "object" to planning merely comment.

Raise the single file car issue, and turning at the bottom if that is to be affected.

Also surely this is 24 new houses, the original 5 have parking, the other 19 have parking for 27.

You have highlighted good transport links and not everyone who currently lives in your street has a car so yes, potentially you could have more cars. But I know of a street where ONE person has 8 cars. No off road parking. He parks them all down the street

NoseyNooNoo · 08/07/2010 13:47

I lived in a road like that Fizzy. Two of my neighours had 5 cars each, taking up about a third of the total space.

biryani · 08/07/2010 19:57

Definitely object, and get your neighbours involved. Even if it doesn't work, at least you've tried. We get this sort of development around our way all the time and without allocated parking, alas. If there is genuine ground for an objection (and not just good old nimbyism) it may be possible to water down the original proposal through neighbourhood objection.

stripeyknickersspottysocks · 08/07/2010 20:09

We've had something similar where I live. Dead end street, old houses = there is a disused complex of "units" at the bottom of the road. It is a nightmare for parking near here already, there are shops on the high street at the end of the dead end road, parked cars on the corners, busy high street.

There has been an application for 45 houses at the end of the dead end road! Lots of people objected, I went to the public meeting. The site owners said if you all carry on kicking up a fuss we will renovate the units and rent them out and there will be even more traffic, noise,etc.

So parish council have rolled over and are backing the bid. It looks like it will go through.

I hope you have more luck.

thisisyesterday · 08/07/2010 20:15

my parents had a similar thing, they live in a small cul-de-sac which has a little road going off of it where there were 2 rows of garages

planning permission was sought to knock garages down and build flats

my mum was dead against it, for reasons equal to yours really... partic extra traffic on the small road but her neighbour pointed out that actually, hardly anyone used the garages and it was nicer to have some flats and people up there than it falling into disrepair and becomning a haven for unsavoury types! which was true really

anyway, the flats were built and all has been fine

thisisyesterday · 08/07/2010 20:16

round here the council are taking people's back gardens to build on! think yourself lucky lol

nymphadora · 08/07/2010 20:29

Quite often these sorts of developments get reduced. So you could object to the number of properties

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