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Self-build: what kind of house could I build for £1m?

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ProfessionalPirate · Yesterday 14:42

DH and I have always dreamed of doing a self-build, and a plot has come onto the market that has got us interested. It already has a very run-down bungalow on it, so we’d be looking at knocking that down and starting again.

After land purchase our build budget would be around £1m. But I’m struggling to work out if that would be enough to build the sort of house we want. We’ve contacted an architect who we’ve worked with before for his opinion, but I know it’s going to be a difficult question to answer without actually going through the planning process and talking to a QS! So I’m wondering if anyone here who has been involved in a self build recently could share their experience with me?

Our minimum requirements would be 5 bed, 3 bath, dressing room. Large kitchen/diner/living. Separate sitting room. Playroom. Office. Plus landscaping / driveway. We favour fairly traditional- looking stone houses with modern touches. In the north of England, in case that makes a difference.

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Nobg · Today 15:37

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:30

It’s protected class 3 agricultural land, nowhere near a village with a comparatively small existing house / curtilage large enough for one family home only. I can’t see developers being able to do much with that.

Oh with all the mention of multiple outbuildings, I imagined a large plot

Nobg · Today 15:37

Do you have kids? Mum of teens here and this sounds like a Nightmare for them and you!

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:43

Nobg · Today 15:37

Oh with all the mention of multiple outbuildings, I imagined a large plot

Ah no the curtilage itself isn’t huge, it’s probably only about half an acre. it’s got some big barns on it but the garden etc is small. Large acreage of grazing land beyond but I imagine we won’t be able to touch that.

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ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:44

Nobg · Today 15:37

Do you have kids? Mum of teens here and this sounds like a Nightmare for them and you!

Oh no! Yes we do, primary school age. Why would it be a nightmare with teens?!

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Nobg · Today 15:45

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:43

Ah no the curtilage itself isn’t huge, it’s probably only about half an acre. it’s got some big barns on it but the garden etc is small. Large acreage of grazing land beyond but I imagine we won’t be able to touch that.

Oh right… i had the impression much bigger than half an acre

Nobg · Today 15:45

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:44

Oh no! Yes we do, primary school age. Why would it be a nightmare with teens?!

As I write this… one teen walked to her friends and one walked to train station, hopped on train and gone to tennis lesson.

School… clubs after school (and some before!)
Friends
socialising

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:46

Nobg · Today 15:45

Oh right… i had the impression much bigger than half an acre

Well I might be underestimating slightly but it certainly isn’t more than 1 acre.

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Nobg · Today 15:46

Oh and one walks to school
the other gets a 12 minute bus

Nobg · Today 15:47

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:46

Well I might be underestimating slightly but it certainly isn’t more than 1 acre.

Won’t the particulars say?

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:49

Nobg · Today 15:45

As I write this… one teen walked to her friends and one walked to train station, hopped on train and gone to tennis lesson.

School… clubs after school (and some before!)
Friends
socialising

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Oh I see! Well that’s our lifestyle. We already live on a rural smallholding. This prospective move would actually bring them nearer to civilisation believe it or not! At their school most of the children live in similar circumstances, and they’re all into farming, horses etc. If it’s all you’ve ever known, you don’t know any different!

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Nobg · Today 15:50

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:49

Oh I see! Well that’s our lifestyle. We already live on a rural smallholding. This prospective move would actually bring them nearer to civilisation believe it or not! At their school most of the children live in similar circumstances, and they’re all into farming, horses etc. If it’s all you’ve ever known, you don’t know any different!

Are they currently in primary?

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:51

Nobg · Today 15:47

Won’t the particulars say?

No just says total acres 50ish. It will be on the deeds what counts as agricultural vs residential curtilage but it’s usually pretty obvious just by looking at it imo.

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ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:52

Nobg · Today 15:50

Are they currently in primary?

Yes currently in primary.

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Nobg · Today 15:52

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:51

No just says total acres 50ish. It will be on the deeds what counts as agricultural vs residential curtilage but it’s usually pretty obvious just by looking at it imo.

Total acres is 50?

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:52

Nobg · Today 15:52

Total acres is 50?

Yes

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Nobg · Today 15:53

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:52

Yes currently in primary.

Ok… I grew up on arse end of no where and I promise you… at 15 it was awful for my parents and me.

Hence why my siblings and i all now live quite centrally so our teens get about freely

Nobg · Today 15:53

ProfessionalPirate · Today 15:52

Yes

Sorry I’m confused

so why wouldn’t this be of interest to a property developer?

ProfessionalPirate · Today 16:01

Nobg · Today 15:53

Ok… I grew up on arse end of no where and I promise you… at 15 it was awful for my parents and me.

Hence why my siblings and i all now live quite centrally so our teens get about freely

Centrally to what? A town/city? I come from a farming family and loved my life growing up. I can’t predict the future for my teens (although currently DS wants to be a farmer and DD a professional eventer!) but I’m hardly going to upend our lives, change the children’s schools, sell all the horses and livestock on the off chance that the children will want to live in a town when their teenagers? This isn’t some kind of big lifestyle change we are considering, it’s one smallholding to another.

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ProfessionalPirate · Today 16:03

Nobg · Today 15:53

Sorry I’m confused

so why wouldn’t this be of interest to a property developer?

All land isn’t just the same. The house, gardens and barns make up the curtilage and has development rights similar to your own house and garden. The agricultural land is basically untouchable.

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Nobg · Today 16:04

ProfessionalPirate · Today 16:03

All land isn’t just the same. The house, gardens and barns make up the curtilage and has development rights similar to your own house and garden. The agricultural land is basically untouchable.

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So the purchase price includes 50 acres in total of land?

Nobg · Today 16:04

ProfessionalPirate · Today 16:01

Centrally to what? A town/city? I come from a farming family and loved my life growing up. I can’t predict the future for my teens (although currently DS wants to be a farmer and DD a professional eventer!) but I’m hardly going to upend our lives, change the children’s schools, sell all the horses and livestock on the off chance that the children will want to live in a town when their teenagers? This isn’t some kind of big lifestyle change we are considering, it’s one smallholding to another.

Ok so not relevant to you. Just a comment

ProfessionalPirate · Today 16:06

Nobg · Today 16:04

So the purchase price includes 50 acres in total of land?

Yes. It’s a smallholding.

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Tortephant · Today 16:24

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Blueuggboots · Today 16:29

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