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How can I tell if this fence is mine or shared?

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Missm68 · 04/07/2026 11:05

I'm trying to find out if my fence is mine or shared with next door but I can only find thease screen shots of what I have so I'm not sure what I need to look for.

How can I tell if this fence is mine or shared?
How can I tell if this fence is mine or shared?
How can I tell if this fence is mine or shared?
How can I tell if this fence is mine or shared?
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Stirabout · 04/07/2026 17:20

FFSItsTooHot · 04/07/2026 17:18

My late DM told me that if the fence posts are on your side,it's your fence. Not sure if this is an urban myth though!

That’s what you are supposed to do
Structure your side

but people ignore that these days as they want the more attractive side facing them
So it can no longer be trusted

Missm68 · 04/07/2026 17:21

Helpmefindmysoul · 04/07/2026 16:28

Have you read the conveyance?

yes but can't see where it says anything about boundary as it's an old copy wrote in hard to read writing

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Taggiesbeefdaube · 04/07/2026 17:21

These theories are all very interesting but the only way to know is to read the conveyances. You'll need to order the office copies from the land registry

Missm68 · 04/07/2026 17:22

Posywosey · 04/07/2026 12:37

Assuming England (and maybe Wales?), do you have a copy of the plans from.the land registry? Normally you would receive a copy of these when you buy, in your solicitor's report- if not, then you can buy online for £7. This may show boundaries and ownership (it has done for the various purchases we have made).

If you are in Scotland or NI, there is probably a different way of doing things.

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think I will take a look at that thanks.

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Taggiesbeefdaube · 04/07/2026 17:22

Missm68 · 04/07/2026 17:21

yes but can't see where it says anything about boundary as it's an old copy wrote in hard to read writing

Paste it on here. Lawyers are used to reading these documents. We used to have to do it all the time when properties were moving from unregistered to registered.

WonderingWanda · 04/07/2026 17:26

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 15:28

If you own the fence Youre supposed to put the structural part on your side
Some people chose to ignore this ( as it’s not so attractive ) so it’s not a great way to identify ownership tbh

Agree with this. Also on external boundaries you put the flat side out so people can't climb into your garden.

Elbowpatch · 04/07/2026 17:39

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 15:41

No it belongs to whoever owns the land the structure sits on

How do you know who owns the land the structure sits on?

If you scale up the lines on title plans, they would be a foot wide in real life.

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 17:43

Elbowpatch · 04/07/2026 17:39

How do you know who owns the land the structure sits on?

If you scale up the lines on title plans, they would be a foot wide in real life.

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You aren’t allowed to scale up land registry plans
You’ll notice land registry say the lines on their drawings are not to scale and are indicative only

If there’s a neighbour disagreement you have to get a boundary surveyor who comes out and looks for existing markers on the ground and all previous legal documentation ( if there is any). Then they make a judgement
We’ve been through this, it’s hell

Elbowpatch · 04/07/2026 19:15

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 17:43

You aren’t allowed to scale up land registry plans
You’ll notice land registry say the lines on their drawings are not to scale and are indicative only

If there’s a neighbour disagreement you have to get a boundary surveyor who comes out and looks for existing markers on the ground and all previous legal documentation ( if there is any). Then they make a judgement
We’ve been through this, it’s hell

Exactly.

The fence belongs to whoever put it up. Whether it is one side of the boundary or the other is irrelevant. If you can prove it is the wrong place, the owner has to move it.

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 19:31

Elbowpatch · 04/07/2026 19:15

Exactly.

The fence belongs to whoever put it up. Whether it is one side of the boundary or the other is irrelevant. If you can prove it is the wrong place, the owner has to move it.

No
The fence does not belong to whoever put it up
It belongs to whoever’s land it’s on

If there’s a boundary line disagreement you need boundary surveyors to decide
If they don’t agree and a third surveyor doesn't then you go to court and it’s decided there

If the boundary line is known it is very relevant what side you put your fence on. Of course it is. The side you don’t own is trespass

You can’t put a fence on land you don’t own and still think it’s your property. It isn’t

DizziLizzy · 04/07/2026 19:42

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 15:28

If you own the fence Youre supposed to put the structural part on your side
Some people chose to ignore this ( as it’s not so attractive ) so it’s not a great way to identify ownership tbh

@Stiraboutthere is no such rule 😂

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 20:04

DizziLizzy · 04/07/2026 19:42

@Stiraboutthere is no such rule 😂

Structure is always on the owners side
Like I said you are ‘supposed to put’ the framing facing you

because it’s basic good management which is why developers do it too
—It’s so you can access the frame for repairs etc without needing access onto your neighbours property
-It’s more attractive if the fence faces out to the public
-and it helps prevent intruders

I didn’t say it was the law
The only piece of legislation is that the structure must be entirely on your own land

Missm68 · 04/07/2026 20:11

Elbowpatch · 04/07/2026 19:15

Exactly.

The fence belongs to whoever put it up. Whether it is one side of the boundary or the other is irrelevant. If you can prove it is the wrong place, the owner has to move it.

the fence I put up not long after I moved in because it was all hedges with holes in ( they moved in not long after me so I made fence good on both sides up to where there fence was broken I had a dog and a young child with special needs at that time ( July 2017) my home is freehold.

How can I tell if this fence is mine or shared?
How can I tell if this fence is mine or shared?
How can I tell if this fence is mine or shared?
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Elbowpatch · 04/07/2026 20:12

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 19:31

No
The fence does not belong to whoever put it up
It belongs to whoever’s land it’s on

If there’s a boundary line disagreement you need boundary surveyors to decide
If they don’t agree and a third surveyor doesn't then you go to court and it’s decided there

If the boundary line is known it is very relevant what side you put your fence on. Of course it is. The side you don’t own is trespass

You can’t put a fence on land you don’t own and still think it’s your property. It isn’t

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Of course it is. If I park my car on your drive, it doesn’t become your property.

msea · 04/07/2026 20:14

We share fences with 3 neighbours and our paperwork says nothing, we have the ‘nice side’ of each one. No idea what we’ll do if it falls down, but we have put up trellising all around.

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 20:23

Elbowpatch · 04/07/2026 20:12

Of course it is. If I park my car on your drive, it doesn’t become your property.

Because your car is moveable !!
It is still a trespass though and has to be removed
You can put your kid on my land too, I won’t take ownership but I am within my rights to ask for them to get off my property

If you plant a tree on my land it will be removed and given back to you

johnd2 · 04/07/2026 21:14

@Elbowpatch is right, the fence belongs to whoever paid for it, unless there's any other agreement with the neighbour about ownership of that fence.
The deeds will only help with who owned the original fence at the time of the deeds, if any, but it's a useful clue often.
In reality, if the op doesn't have personal knowledge of who paid for the current fence, then the best idea is to talk to the neighbour and come up with a solution.
A lot of people prefer to stick to what the deeds originally went with, which makes sense, but that's by no means a given, and you aren't obliged to have or maintain your existing fence, as long as you don't let it fall onto your neighbour's land.
Hope that helps (I'm clearly not a lawyer though!)

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 04/07/2026 21:28

The main question really is why are you asking? If its because you feel the fence needs replacing then its a different question. Do you NEED it replacing to keep animals or children safe? If you do then you need to be prepared to replace it yourself because your neighbour has no responsibility to provide a fence even if they are responsible for the boundary then they just need to ensure the boundary is marked.

PigletJohn · 05/07/2026 00:12

Tortephant · 04/07/2026 11:22

I think, happy to be corrected, as standard if you look from your house the fence to the right is a neighbours and the fence to the left is yours.

This has no legal standing.

DizziLizzy · 05/07/2026 11:10

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 20:04

Structure is always on the owners side
Like I said you are ‘supposed to put’ the framing facing you

because it’s basic good management which is why developers do it too
—It’s so you can access the frame for repairs etc without needing access onto your neighbours property
-It’s more attractive if the fence faces out to the public
-and it helps prevent intruders

I didn’t say it was the law
The only piece of legislation is that the structure must be entirely on your own land

Well exactly as you say there's no law therefore no rule! It may be the polite thing to do for your neighbours abd whilst I understand what you are saying there is no way id be spending ££££ to givevthe aesthetic away. We have a family fencing company so are well aware of what is fact and is myth. myth.

Taggiesbeefdaube · 05/07/2026 11:15

johnd2 · 04/07/2026 21:14

@Elbowpatch is right, the fence belongs to whoever paid for it, unless there's any other agreement with the neighbour about ownership of that fence.
The deeds will only help with who owned the original fence at the time of the deeds, if any, but it's a useful clue often.
In reality, if the op doesn't have personal knowledge of who paid for the current fence, then the best idea is to talk to the neighbour and come up with a solution.
A lot of people prefer to stick to what the deeds originally went with, which makes sense, but that's by no means a given, and you aren't obliged to have or maintain your existing fence, as long as you don't let it fall onto your neighbour's land.
Hope that helps (I'm clearly not a lawyer though!)

Well sort of (IAAL). The fence belongs to whoever paid for it - as long as they put it on their land.

Taggiesbeefdaube · 05/07/2026 11:17

Elbowpatch · 04/07/2026 20:12

Of course it is. If I park my car on your drive, it doesn’t become your property.

This is irrelevant. A car is not a fixture. Once you put a fence up it becomes a fixture of the land and will become the property of the person whose land the fence is on.

Taggiesbeefdaube · 05/07/2026 11:18

Stirabout · 04/07/2026 19:31

No
The fence does not belong to whoever put it up
It belongs to whoever’s land it’s on

If there’s a boundary line disagreement you need boundary surveyors to decide
If they don’t agree and a third surveyor doesn't then you go to court and it’s decided there

If the boundary line is known it is very relevant what side you put your fence on. Of course it is. The side you don’t own is trespass

You can’t put a fence on land you don’t own and still think it’s your property. It isn’t

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This is correct.

Taggiesbeefdaube · 05/07/2026 11:20

The legal principle is quicquid plantatur solo, solo cedit

Stirabout · 05/07/2026 11:50

Taggiesbeefdaube · 05/07/2026 11:20

The legal principle is quicquid plantatur solo, solo cedit

And for the non Latin readers 👩‍🎓

Quicquid plantatur solo, solo cedit" is a foundational Latin maxim in property and land law meaning "whatever is affixed to the soil belongs to the soil". Under this ancient principle, any permanent improvements, structures, or crops attached to a property legally become the property of the landowner.

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