Toilet in the middle of a property, not on an outside wall

[Housebashing]

I’m sure I’ve read previously that this is possible
We have a downstairs bathroom and a disproportionately large landing that could easily accommodate a small room big enough to have a toilet upstairs. I think this would be life changing.
Have I imagined this?
Does anybody have any idea of costs?
Thank you

You would need some kind of ventilation. And plumbing/soil pipe access.

Depends on the position of the soil stack etc but my random guess is - ooh - 3k for the most basic loo and basin partitioned off .

Our bathroom is in the middle no outside wall therefore no window.

Ventilation is via an extractor fan.
When we viewed the house this was the ONLY downside so we decided to go for it.

Whilst a middle of the house bathroom/toilet is far from ideal it does work.
Get a builder round and go for it.

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Blimey it’s only £7000 for a whole new bathroom
That seems steep

it only a guess! But a big part if the work would be sorting out pipe work and ventilation and building the stud wall which is about the same with or without a bath/shower.

That does make sense. I’m debating now whether to turn the third bedroom back into an upstairs bathroom which is what I presume it was originally.
Doesn’t seem like three grand well invested
Long-term term

Yes, anything is possible. As to the cost it’s impossible to say without more details and plans. But it will likely be a few thousand.

Personally that is the layout which would attract me as a future buyer. So long as you can manage without the 3rd bedroom.

I think when I come to sell the house, it will end up in the hands of a HMO
In which case they’ll turn the front room into a bedroom and rent out the two bedrooms upstairs.
It is equally attempting to do nothing and let them do all the hard work once they’ve inevitably acquired it when I’m done with it

Are you sure ? I don’t think it’s a common thing for people to turn their only upstairs bathroom into a bedroom. How old is your house?

Actually I have seen this several times when house hunting, especially in smaller terraced houses. I guess that expanding families need an extra bedroom and convert a downstairs loo or shed into a bathroom then use the upstairs room for a child.

That's interesting. Off topic, but why do you expect that your house would sought after as an HMO rather than a family home? Is it the area?

We have one of these as an en suite to a bedroom; it has ventilation via an extractor fan.

It also has a Saniflo to help pump away the waste via a small diameter pipe (easier to run a small pipe under the floor to the outside than a large pipe).

I don't love it tbh. It was there when we moved in. It's only used by DS, whose bedroom it is. Not sure how well it would work if used by a whole family.

The area is godforsaken.
I would imagine it will be purchased. The loft will be converted making the middle floor third bedroom ideal for a bathroom and then the extended room off the kitchen will be a bathroom as well and the front room another bedroom.
If I could afford to do the work myself, I would
Probably rent it for three grand a month as rooms
650 a month as a family home

It's the soil pipe that could be the issue being 100mm, and you can't cut through the floor joists. (Well you can, but then your house falls down.)

I would avoid a macerator as a solution too.

Presume the soil pipe would need to go down through the floor and be boxed in on the ceiling on whatever room is below it until it reaches an outside wall. It would then need to join the existing soil pipe on the outside. I expect this could be quite disruptive. Can you post a floor plan?

Not easily, unfortunately, but yes, that sounds like a absolute nightmare.

You can always fit a "muncher", not ideal, provided only pee,poo and paper goes in it will be ok. just be warned if it does eat something it shouldn't you may struggle to find somebody willing to fix it rather than replace. Ventilation will have to upwards, the duct can either run to the eaves, or you can fit a vent tile into the roof

A muncher 😂🤢

i can see that being popular if it does become a HMO, it sounds like a royal pain in the arse rather than a selling point

I live on my own in an older style small terrace. I have an upstairs bathroom, but wanted something downstairs aswell. I now have a loo, shower, and washing machine in a square room at the end of the hall. It has no outside windows and there is a good extractor fan. Works fine, I rarely use the shower TBH as it was a future proofing job for getting older.

I might add that the downstairs windowless lootility was part of a ground floor reconfigure, so the builder took care of all the piping etc. It might be a lot different to do this upstairs if there is no existing plumbing.

Yes you need enough fall for the pipes to get it to the soil pipe. I had one and the pipe ran under the bedroom next door and out the side of the property.