Could I squeeze a room in here?

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I would ideally like some more storage, a downstairs loo and maybe even laundry facilities separated off. Can I squeeze all that into a utility room here, somewhere? Outside is a large yard but probs not large enough for an extension.

There is a decent sized cupboard under the stairs but don't like the idea of toilet opening to the lounge.

Would it work to use the under stairs cupboard and the area in front of it and have it open into the kitchen? Like this?

Doesn’t look like enough space? Space for a loo is going to take up at least the width of the stairs, so where will you put your sink and utilities?

Plus think about water supply…

Is the wall between the lounge and kitchen a supporting one?

Can you extend to the back at all?

So a long narrow room? Yes, which end should the plumbing go, the kitchen end I guess?

Sorry that was @Sillysoggyspaniel

I didn't think building regs permitted having a toilet open into the kitchen? I may be wrong though.

Well what does the council say?

Yeah it's fine as long as there's a sink in there too

Yes I think it's a supporting wall.

I'd rather not lose too much of the yard. On the left side it would mean relocating boiler = mega bucks. On the right side there are patio doors.

About what sorry?

Good to know. There used to be a rule about having a double door (i.e. the toilet couldn'topen straight into the kitchen), so glad that's gone.

You are wrong. It used to be the case, because at the time it was believed that smells carried germs. However the rules changed many many years ago and it is now allowed. The only requirements being that the toilet needs to have its own hand washing facilities , and ventilation (either window or extractor fan).

OP you seem to have limited options and limited space to squeeze in what you want. Maybe time to consider moving instead to get what you want?

Where is the sewer? You might have to dig up the entire floor to lay the drains from the toilet out to the sewer.

Saniflow is normally the answer to that. Then only a small pipe is required, which can then go out through the wall and be directed outside to wherever it needs to go.

Yeah, someone else said that further up. Shame it wasn't the case when I wanted to put a downstairs cludge in, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Thank you though.

Saniflow toilets are noisy and block up easily. They are OK for occasional use but not a great plan for the only loo on the ground floor.

Could you fit a washer /drier / utility cupboard upstairs somewhere?

If not then I would stick the washer drier and some storage for washing and cleaning stuff under the stairs. With doors opening into the living room. You could even put a row of units with worktop against that wall and have some nice floor to ceiling door made so you effectively have a utility room but without losing living room floor space for the bit you stand in.

You have to have 2 doors so the toilet door can be shut before opening the door into the kitchen.

That's what I thought you needed, but apparently not the case now if there is a wash basin (see comments up thread).

I'm not in a position to move, just wanting to maximise what I've got before spending a ton on a new kitchen.

I like the upstairs laundry idea @Geneticsbunnythanks

I have one and it's great. Have a lazy Sheila drop down airer on the ceiling in the landing and then a cupboard with a drier and washer stacked and a tiny hand wash sink at the side.

My parents have an upstairs laundry room adjacent to the main bathroom, makes so much more sense. Fine if you're in an Edwardian house with lots of rooms, my 3 bed grey box ex council house, not so much.

Unless you can use the left hand side of the kitchen it's probably not gonna happen.