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Moral implications of gazumping

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sweetbabyangel · 16/11/2025 10:20

My partner and I had an offer rejected on a house we’d fallen in love with, because the vendor had received an offer from another buyer who was proceedable (whereas we were still waiting for a buyer). Totally understandable. However, just a few days later, we received an offer on our flat and, seeing that our dream house was still listed on all the property sites, emailed the agent as a long shot, letting them know that we were now proceedable and offering our best price (significantly over asking price) just in case the property was in fact still on the market. I spoke to my friend about it, expecting her to share in my excitement, but she was horrified by what we’d done. I’d never heard of gazumping before, but she explained how immoral it is, and it left me feeling awful. To be honest, I think my partner and I were so wrapped up in the excitement of the whole process that we didn’t really consider the moral implications of potentially screwing over someone else who’d already had their offer accepted on the property we loved. Now that we think about it, we feel really shitty. I think we also felt like, as the property was still online and listed for sale, it was still fair game and any moral considerations were more on the part of the vendor than on us as buyers with no real knowledge of what had been agreed between the vendor and other potential buyers. Does anyone have any thoughts on this, how common this kind of thing is, and how guilty we should be feeling over it? My partner suggested we should maybe retract the offer but surely that would cause even more potential upset and frustration? Thanks in advance!

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largeredformeplease · 16/11/2025 10:28

The English house buying system is awful.

gazumping is awful and shouldn’t be allowed. But it is, and others do it, and ithe system is such a riot I would probably do it as well.

the owner should feel guiltier than you if they accept your offer.

you also have no idea how proceedable the other buyer is, they may well pull out, so many people in England do.

so no, I wouldn’t feel particularly bad about doing it. You do what you have to do it.

but in general, yes, it’s shit, and the whole process needs overhauled.

(I’m in Scotland. We don’t have all the uncertainty and chains collapsing etc up here. Much better.)

sweetbabyangel · 16/11/2025 11:13

largeredformeplease · 16/11/2025 10:28

The English house buying system is awful.

gazumping is awful and shouldn’t be allowed. But it is, and others do it, and ithe system is such a riot I would probably do it as well.

the owner should feel guiltier than you if they accept your offer.

you also have no idea how proceedable the other buyer is, they may well pull out, so many people in England do.

so no, I wouldn’t feel particularly bad about doing it. You do what you have to do it.

but in general, yes, it’s shit, and the whole process needs overhauled.

(I’m in Scotland. We don’t have all the uncertainty and chains collapsing etc up here. Much better.)

Thank you for your viewpoint. We don’t feel great about it tbh, but will learn from it. Thanks again.

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Fifthtimelucky · 16/11/2025 11:16

I agree that gazumping is awful but in this case if the new offer was made genuinely a few days after the first offer was accepted, I think it’s much less of a a problem.

The other buyers won’t have spent lots of money on searches and surveys at this stage and their solicitor will have done very little, if anything.

Later into the process it’s much worse because they will have spent a lot of money which they won’t get back.

sweetbabyangel · 16/11/2025 11:22

Fifthtimelucky · 16/11/2025 11:16

I agree that gazumping is awful but in this case if the new offer was made genuinely a few days after the first offer was accepted, I think it’s much less of a a problem.

The other buyers won’t have spent lots of money on searches and surveys at this stage and their solicitor will have done very little, if anything.

Later into the process it’s much worse because they will have spent a lot of money which they won’t get back.

Thanks for your perspective on it!

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Mydogsmellslikewee · 16/11/2025 11:55

The seller got more money, you got the house you wanted. Thats just life.

I was in the same boat years ago. Someone offered me 15k more. They were also chain free. I would have been mental to turn that down.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 16/11/2025 12:03

We had it happen to us, someone came in and offered more a few days after we’d been accepted. Luckily we’d not spent anything yet, we just thought it was one of those things, we knew they wanted more than we’d offered. (However it worked out for us as the other buyer had to pull out and we got a call asking if our original offer was still on the table. Am currently sat in that house.)

some people do have strong feelings about gazumping, best you don’t mention it too much!

ShesTheAlbatross · 16/11/2025 12:08

I think if it was just a couple of days and was still listed for sale then it’s ok. I mean, it’s not ideal but it’s not awful.

I think gazundering is far worse, especially when people do it right before exchange. Anyone who does that should be banished to a far away island.

Nofireplace · 16/11/2025 12:08

If it's not marked SSTC yet then you can offer. Absolutely.

It would be shitty to try to overbid months later when buyer has spent money and is getting on with it.

The system needs changing. It's ridiculous people spend money, months of time and anyone can back out with no repercussions after that since contracts are usually exchanged lose to completion.

sweetbabyangel · 16/11/2025 12:22

ShesTheAlbatross · 16/11/2025 12:08

I think if it was just a couple of days and was still listed for sale then it’s ok. I mean, it’s not ideal but it’s not awful.

I think gazundering is far worse, especially when people do it right before exchange. Anyone who does that should be banished to a far away island.

Agreed. Thanks for your input!

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Tiswa · 16/11/2025 12:24

If it was still listed online then of course you can make an offer - it is part and parcel of the buying system.

it would more make me question the sellers though that having accepted an offer they didn’t take it off the market

sweetbabyangel · 16/11/2025 12:25

Nofireplace · 16/11/2025 12:08

If it's not marked SSTC yet then you can offer. Absolutely.

It would be shitty to try to overbid months later when buyer has spent money and is getting on with it.

The system needs changing. It's ridiculous people spend money, months of time and anyone can back out with no repercussions after that since contracts are usually exchanged lose to completion.

Yes, I agree and we hate the idea of treating others badly, particularly when the housing market is so savage anyway! I think if we’d thought it through more thoroughly we might not have offered, but fingers crossed minimal damage has been done. Thanks for your message.

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sweetbabyangel · 16/11/2025 12:26

Tiswa · 16/11/2025 12:24

If it was still listed online then of course you can make an offer - it is part and parcel of the buying system.

it would more make me question the sellers though that having accepted an offer they didn’t take it off the market

A good point. Thanks 🙏

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dairydebris · 16/11/2025 12:29

A few days later? Meh. Barely gazumping. I wouldn't give it a second thought.

ShesTheAlbatross · 16/11/2025 12:30

Tiswa · 16/11/2025 12:24

If it was still listed online then of course you can make an offer - it is part and parcel of the buying system.

it would more make me question the sellers though that having accepted an offer they didn’t take it off the market

If it was just a couple of days that could easily just be the estate agent not getting round to it.

nellly · 16/11/2025 12:33

Nofireplace · 16/11/2025 12:08

If it's not marked SSTC yet then you can offer. Absolutely.

It would be shitty to try to overbid months later when buyer has spent money and is getting on with it.

The system needs changing. It's ridiculous people spend money, months of time and anyone can back out with no repercussions after that since contracts are usually exchanged lose to completion.

Yes if it’s not marked SSTC then it usually means the first offer has not yet provided all the proof of funds/ID etc so I barely even think you are gazumping.

we were gazumped after 3 months and I was furious at the bastard lot of them!! Cost us £££ in lost searches and survey. Wildly different to what you did!

backslashruby · 16/11/2025 12:33

If the property was still listed as being for sale and if you made it clear to the agent that your offer was being made 'just in case the property was in fact still on the market' then you haven't done anything wrong.

Mydogsmellslikewee · 16/11/2025 12:39

sweetbabyangel · 16/11/2025 12:25

Yes, I agree and we hate the idea of treating others badly, particularly when the housing market is so savage anyway! I think if we’d thought it through more thoroughly we might not have offered, but fingers crossed minimal damage has been done. Thanks for your message.

Come on, you can’t go through life hand wringing about everything.

You didn’t kick a granny. You offered someone more money for something they were selling and they took it.

You get one life and you really have to do what’s best for yourself.

Nourishinghandcream · 16/11/2025 12:41

If it is still shown on the listing as being available then you did nothing wrong or immoral.

Personally I prefer it to go for B&F as everyone has an equal chance but admittedly you need a buoyant market for that to be really successful.

We sold a couple of houses about 4yrs ago and one of them went to B&F.
20+ viewers in a 7-day period, all proceed able (you didn't get to view if you weren't). A grace period of a few days and then everyone had 2-days to submit their B&F offers. We then spent a couple of days looking through the offers and chose our preferred buyer (NOT the highest in this case).
A much better system but as I said, needs a buoyant market.

StewkeyBlue · 16/11/2025 12:53

All’s fair in love, war and house buying.

Why shouldn’t the vendors get as much as they can for the house? They might get more now than had you been proceedable when you made your first offer.

It’s a few days later. The original offer holders won’t have shelled out for survey and searches, a few days is unlikely to collapse a chain.

There is no doubt that buying and selling is stressful but all offers are subject to survey and searches anyway.

If you really want this house OP, go for it.

Nothing is signed sealed and sold until exchange.

GeneralPeter · 16/11/2025 13:00

The fact it’s still listed makes a huge difference, as does the fact it’s only a few days.

Also the bad behaviour in gazumping is mainly on the part of the seller. They are the one that’s made the commitment to the other buyer, not you. In this case the house was still on the market so it’s not even clear that they had done that. The longer it goes on the worse it gets morally because the other side has committed more. But at the stage where the house is still on the market I’m not even sure that’s gazumping in any sense.

”Here’s my offer”
No thanks
“OK here’s a better one”

That’s normal negotiation.

lostintranslation148 · 16/11/2025 13:18

The other party can always start a bidding war if they feel aggrieved. I hope for you sake they don't though!

Gingka · 16/11/2025 14:11

What if another buyer shows up in a week offering more than you? Once your offer is accepted, get them to SSTC on the portals and stop all viewings or this could potentially be happening to you next. It’s all up to the seller to be honest, up to them to lock the sale ASAP vs keeping the doors open (literally) to other buyers. At times it’s just estate agents not communicating properly leaving everyone guessing for a while.

AmITheLastOne · 16/11/2025 14:18

I agree with other posters, I think you are fine. It was a few day later and the house was still listed as being for sale.

One of my daughters had a seller change her mind the MORNING after the survey. It was a full structural survey too. The seller had previously been really keen and she knew my daughter was a first time buyer and not exactly flush with cash. Luckily the surveyor was very reasonable and hadn’t started writing up the report.

rainingsnoring · 16/11/2025 16:46

Normally, I would say that gazumping and gazundering are awful, although the blame for gazumping falls on the seller, who made an agreement with one buyer and then messed them around, rather than the person offering more.
I don't think it's too bad in this situation at all though because it's been days and no one has spent any money yet. Have you had a response to your email yet?

sonjadog · 16/11/2025 16:55

I wouldn't feel bad at all. Firstly, the house was still listed for sale. But mainly because I hate this idea some people have that you have to consider every possible connotation of something and if it might hurt anyone's feelings, even if you don't know them and will never meet them, before doing anything, and if someone somewhere might be slightly inconvenienced you mustn't do it. It is your one life, you are allowed to take up space and go after what you want. You aren't holding a gun to the sellers head saying they have to accept your offer now. If they would rather sell to the other people for whatever reason, they can go ahead and do that.

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