Kitchen floorplan help pls!

[MotherPuppr]

Hello, would really appreciate some help with my kitchen floorplan. It is a small-ish room about 3.4m wide x 5 long. Leads out to small courtyard garden so would like sliding french doors out to coutyard at dining table end. Current kitchen and bathroom being completely knocked down for this new space so no limitations on where to put windows and doors etc.

• the funny wine racks on the wall above the sink are where i would like a wooden rectangular frame cookbook shelf / space for pestle / mortar etc. Just couldn't work that out on ikea website.
• shallower shelves at end are for glassware and a coffee and cocktail station and to store all our wine.
• the two tall cupboards on long wall are F/F and pantry. Then D/W, then sink with bins under, then drawers then a corner carousel for pots n pans, then hob.
• I know it's a lot of upper cabinets and not to everyone's taste in terms of busyness, but cooking and baking are my hobby and i love entertaining, i really do need the storage!

• not set on the cabinet colours or a round table shape, was just playing around.
• need the island for countertop space, happy to lose the island seating. If i did keep the bar stools i'd get a waterfall edge island i'm just not techny enough to work that out 😥

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Thanks again. I will probably not be allowed anything other than a frosted low window to avoid overlooking the neighbour, tbh the window is just for ventilation and some daylight, there will be double glass doors at the end and a skylight so really it’s just for clearing steam in the kitchen and airing out smells.

the recycling should be able to fit in that big drawer under the sink, we are in a hot country so need small bins that are emptied every two days.

I’m planning coffee machine down the end (that’s the wine/cocktail and coffee zone!) so husband is out my way while I’m cooking or vice versa and I should be able to have just a kettle, toaster and salt pepper and oil on the corner worktop. Fruit bowl would go on dining table, and magimix and kitchen aid would go in island (maybe kitchen aid at the end ‘on display’) and / or under the oven.

i would be able to get rid of my microwave as the second oven is a combination and the other things I have on my countertop right now (a jar of utensils and knife block) would be tidily in the drawers by the oven.

That bit of worktop between the pantry and fridge looks weird and is going to be annoying. How about put pantry and fridge next to the door and move oven to the end where the pantry currently is. Have one long worktop. I still think it would be better without the island, have full size cupboards on the wall above the long worktop instead.

I don’t have any suggestions on the layout, but I am in the planning phase of the kitchen. Can I ask what you used to design your images, they look great.

Hi Spin that’s just the ikea kitchen planner. I would say it’s fairly intuitive apart from the worktops - I’m sure there a you tube tutorials that will be worth watching!

top tip - if you zoom in you can pinch and grab multiple items and move all chairs and table together. Took me ages to figure that out!

Think,you need to put all your tall units together. I have my f/f, then my pantry cupboard and then my oven all next to each other.

I like what you have better but how set are you on French doors?

Have you had a play with a normal glass door and a large picture window?

You could have a c shaped kitchen that way ending where you have the fridge and a corner dining nook with banquet style seating against the wall where you currently have the narrow cupboards (saw it done nicely on a repeat of love it or list it shown on Saturday).

You get a lot of cupboards in that style.

If you then moved the (single) door at least 35cm from the wall you could have narrow cupboards in more of a dresser style for the wall opposite the main kitchen (at garden end) with a shaped end for cookbooks etc.

Have you had a look at DIY kitchens as well as IKEA? I really liked IKEA but I could make things fit much better with DIY as they do many more sizes so you can have a 35cm cupboard for example. I just couldn't get IKEA units efficiently round my corners.

This sort of style is quite an efficient use of space.

I do like what you have but just offering alternative options as you have the benefit of a blank piece of paper.

I’d go and speak to a higher end kitchen supplier. To get some ideas on how best to use the space. Our kitchen designer was highly skilled, and came up with some great ideas I’d never have thought of.
It’s cheeky if you know you’ll go lower spec / ikea but it is useful to have their designs. And you could potentially spec up for key details like taps or doors

As a PP has suggested, I’d go and ask another kitchen planner - it doesn’t even have to be high spec. We got our kitchen from Wickes, and their kitchen planner (a lady) was absolutely brilliant and make some really helpful suggestions. If you know pretty much what you want, they will come up with something for you, and you can take the ideas and use them with whatever kitchen you want. We got two sets of designs from two companies anyway. Also, don’t get too fixated on what IKEA has, if you’re using them for the basic design and cupboards - I got all my own appliances so I could have what I wanted, because to me, a cupboard is a cupboard, but I do a lot of cooking so I was bothered about having the exact ovens and extractor fan that I wanted.

Hi thanks again for the further thoughts - i know, i know: the tall units would look better together, i do agree. But then you can't open the fridge without hitting whomever is sitting at the dining table (not just when you have a crowd, i mean if anyone is sat at that end of the table). I do hear you all though.

I am not completely wedded to French doors but my thinking was that as the house and garden are SO TINY if people were round for dinner the small space would feel less claustrophobic. I could then lose the island though altogether i think. I will try that out, thanks. As for your other idea, i started out with a C shape kitchen and a dining nook - i love that concept - but there was not enough wall for the oven, fridge and pantry unless i put them on the wall where the window is and I quite want the window. Also you would then have either the stove or the sink in the arm of the C that faces out to the garden and then you'd have someone or something splattering above your head while you were sitting at the nook 😥It was also a bit chaotic in the sense that if someone opened the oven you couldn't open the d/w at the same time, it was all trip hazards.

"If you then moved the (single) door at least 35cm from the wall you could have narrow cupboards in more of a dresser style for the wall opposite the main kitchen (at garden end) with a shaped end for cookbooks etc." Apologies I do not know what you mean here @Teathecolourofcreosote. Do you mean a slim line of cupboards all the way down the currently blank wall, with the C shape set up?

I am not in UK so sadly no DIY kitchens / wren, i think there is a mid-range equivalent though so i will ask them for a consultation - good idea!

(not wedded to Ikea but just trying to keep my budget realistic - if it turns out i can get something nicer I will, but i don't want to start off looking at DeVol and then dissapoint myself heh).