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New forest or south Gloucestershire?

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tapandteacake · 03/11/2025 16:30

Hi all, would love some help from a load of mums please. We are moving house, relocating away from very suburban Surrey. We have a 21 month old and a baby due in March. After a year of thorough research and several Airbnb stays, we have narrowed it down to the village of Sway in the New Forest or Tetbury/Malmesbury/Cirencester area. We don’t have family in either area although my in-laws are in Gloucester (not super helpful in a practical sense but good at entertaining the kids if we need to go out briefly and would also be good at cuddling the baby so that I could have some 1 on 1 time with my toddler). My parents visit the new forest quite often as they have friends there and they have a boat in Southampton that they like to use to visit Lymington.

We’ve found a house that we like in both Sway and Malmesbury. The Sway house has a really wonderful garden, a good size for kids to play even as they get older and it fulfils a dream of mine to teach the kids how to grow fruit and veg and to have a surface pool for all these hot summers we’ve been having. The Malmesbury house itself is better in accommodation and condition however the garden is quite small, about half what we are used to, only 10m x 10m and surrounded by lots of other houses as it’s on a large estate.

The main issue behind not being able to decide is that when we stayed in Sway for a week, other than at the baby group I went to one day, I didn’t see any other young families at all. I spent a day alone with my toddler when my husband tried the commute into work and I felt really quite lonely. It was a slightly drizzly day on and off to be fair, but I didn’t see anyone else at the playground, no one under the age of 70 at the local cafe and not even really anyone on the pavements to say hello to. We did drive to the beach in the afternoon but it took 25 minutes. I enquired about play cafes or soft plays on a local Facebook group but most of the recommendations were 30 mins drive away. We tried a walk into the forest and my toddler screamed when we dragged him out of the car park where there were ponies and then wanted to be carried home, it was not the idyllic walk I’d hoped for! I also worry about how often we’ll actually make it there with the toddler in a buggy and the new baby and I can’t help that feel that a play cafe like the ones we have in Surrey would be a much easier way to solo parent two little kids. I’m sure when the kids are older they’d get more out of it and maybe I’d get used to having to drive further distances for any activities, but I’m quite worried about feeling lonely, trapped and bored over the next few years. In Surrey if my toddler is driving me mad we can jump in the car and be at 3 different play cafes within 10 minutes and whatever time of day you go to the local garden centre you’re guaranteed to see other mummies and kids.

In Tetbury and Malmesbury we saw mummies and kids everywhere, the playground always had people on it and socialising. There seem to be lots of things to do and you can drive to either of those 3 towns in only 10-20 mins so more options in each town. When we stayed there, I just felt more comfortable somehow. But the gardens are so small and I worry I’ll feel trapped there too! Life would be so easy in the Malmesbury house we’ve found as it’s so well laid out for family life and it’s also much cheaper than the New Forest house so would take a lot of pressure off financially.

Staying in Surrey unfortunately isn’t an option because we just can’t afford the mortgage we’d need for the sort of house we want on a single salary. We’ve had to sell our beloved house because our finances were just falling too short of our outgoings and never want to end up at risk ever again.

Would love any advice, especially from parents who have moved to a small village in a rural area with young kids. Thank you so much!

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tapandteacake · 03/11/2025 18:09

Talkinpeace · 03/11/2025 18:01

If East London then DEFINITELY North Wiltshire
to change to the Elizabeth line as far west as he can

That’s what we’re thinking, it’s a much better commute. But we can’t help but worry that the New Forest was our dream and we love the bigger garden we can get there. We always imagined the kids learning to sail like we did and climbing trees in the new forest. Whenever we meet anyone who lives in the New Forest, they always comment on what a special amazing place it is to bring children up.

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HewasH2O · 03/11/2025 18:11

There are no young families in Sway as they can't afford to live there. Sway, New Milton & Milford on Sea are retirement central.

Talkinpeace · 03/11/2025 18:15

@tapandteacake
The forest may well be a lovely place to bring up kids
for the very rich
those who are massively into horses
those who do not need to get to London regularly

many of the villages are not family friendly at all

When I do a rightmove search I always exclude the National Park
and I try NEVER to drive near Burley in the summer
Lyndhurst one way is an utter pig

Larrylobstersrollerskate · 03/11/2025 18:16

I’m in Winchester which is 55 min on train to Waterloo. Wouldn’t want to do it everyday but it’s fine otherwise. New Forest 40 min drive, also South Downs start in Winchester and Wessex Downs under an hour (Avebury/Malborough 55 mins drive) so it’s a great area to live. Also direct train to Oxford (drive under an hour) and well connected road wise. Lots on and many young families. Personally I wouldn’t go too quiet, we did that previously and I spent half my life driving and it was very lonely when my DD was young.

myladyjane · 03/11/2025 18:20

Saw this in active. You need to get to Kemble for the train if you are in malmsbury/tetbury/cirencester don’t you? That’s not walking distance. And iirc that train journey is about an hour and a half to Paddington on top of the drive plus travel the other end. Which can be fine once a week.

sorry if I’m wrong about the station - I grew up near there and that was always the case but may have changed. I live closer to Bristol now and do the Bristol/London commute fairly frequently - maybe every 2 weeks. It’s fine but very expensive (gwr is in general).

tapandteacake · 03/11/2025 18:23

myladyjane · 03/11/2025 18:20

Saw this in active. You need to get to Kemble for the train if you are in malmsbury/tetbury/cirencester don’t you? That’s not walking distance. And iirc that train journey is about an hour and a half to Paddington on top of the drive plus travel the other end. Which can be fine once a week.

sorry if I’m wrong about the station - I grew up near there and that was always the case but may have changed. I live closer to Bristol now and do the Bristol/London commute fairly frequently - maybe every 2 weeks. It’s fine but very expensive (gwr is in general).

Luckily DH has an office in Bristol too so he could go there 2 times a month (we would be able to afford a second car if we lived in Malmesbury) and London 2 times a month so coping with the drive to Kemble would be ok and still significantly better than the commute from Sway which is like 3.5 hours each way.

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tapandteacake · 03/11/2025 18:25

Larrylobstersrollerskate · 03/11/2025 18:16

I’m in Winchester which is 55 min on train to Waterloo. Wouldn’t want to do it everyday but it’s fine otherwise. New Forest 40 min drive, also South Downs start in Winchester and Wessex Downs under an hour (Avebury/Malborough 55 mins drive) so it’s a great area to live. Also direct train to Oxford (drive under an hour) and well connected road wise. Lots on and many young families. Personally I wouldn’t go too quiet, we did that previously and I spent half my life driving and it was very lonely when my DD was young.

That’s interesting. Where were you when your kids were little? I worry a lot that I’ll be lonely.

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MrsMoastyToasty · 03/11/2025 18:29

Have you considered around Bath? Bradford on Avon or Keynsham have good connections to Bristol, Bath and London.
I'm in Keynsham and it's 10 minutes to Bristol Temple Meads and to Bath Spa stations by train. I believe its about an hour and a half to London Paddington.

sunwolf · 03/11/2025 18:42

Have you thought about Christchurch/Hengistbury Head/Southbourne area? It's about a 15 minute drive to some of the most lovely parts of the New Forest and about 20 mins to Moors Valley Country Park which is awesome for young kids. There's also an outstanding primary school called St Katherine's and a really vibrant and friendly community feel? Loads of kids down on Sobo Beach all the time and direct trains to London from Christchurch Station. Lymington is also lovely - great primary again and lots of parks but more expensive and you often have to change trains at Brockenhurst which is a pain. Sway is pretty and has a very good primary school so there must be kids somewhere but there's not much in the way of activities so you could well get a bit bored and lonely. Good luck in finding somewhere you love!

Kattley · 03/11/2025 19:24

Tetbury is a bit dead in terms of things to do. It’s basically a retired population who are asset rich and cash poor and it attracts a lot of Londoners for the country “experience”. Cirencester has a lot more going on in terms of shops and activities. Just make sure your house isn’t near the River in Malmesbury because it floods badly. Overall those areas in Gloucestershire and Wiltshire are nice and safe. It’s a bit of a pain to commute to London and expensive. Other areas to consider are the Five Valleys around Stroud so closer to Gloucester. I personally don’t like Stroud but many do. It has a direct line to London Paddington as does Stonehouse.

Brockmum88 · 03/11/2025 19:51

I know one young family that lives in sway. The smaller villages do have families, but not that many, and the schools struggle with funding- so they are not thriving as such. Although jubilee fields is a great play park (we have been a few times) and has a great pub and cafe. And butchers! (I like Sway!)

we moved to Brockenhurst last year, from London. Both grew up in Ringwood, so wanted family near for our little one who is now 30 months. Brockenhurst is great- trains to London for work, and lots of families in the area. 2 local toddler groups (termtime) good school/ preschool, events and activities around Christmas, fireworks etc. however in the winter the nearest play cafe is hythe or romsey! Very little nearby for indoor play. So you need to make connections for play dates or something.
As people have said- Brock is not cheap, but for us the Trainline sold it- meant we only need one car.

Larrylobstersrollerskate · 03/11/2025 19:58

tapandteacake · 03/11/2025 18:25

That’s interesting. Where were you when your kids were little? I worry a lot that I’ll be lonely.

We lived in a village in Sussex. I know some people love it but village life wasn’t for me. All social life was centred around the village hall, you rely on a smaller community who you may/may not gel with, and I missed being able to easily go to music, exhibitions, classes or even just cafes or shops without driving miles. My DD totally relied on me being her taxi driver and there was nothing in the village for her to do. In a village, you notice the seasons more too, and Autumn/Winter I found very hard. Moving here as she reached 16 was perfect, it was like a whole new world opened up to her (and me). Winchester has a large younger population because of the Uni, art college and one of the biggest sixth form colleges in the UK. So it’s not just full of older people, quite a few tourists too, but not enough to make it feel overrun.

Gloschick · 03/11/2025 20:33

I would call your search Glos/Wilts border. South Glos is an entirely different county bordering Bristol! :)
Malmesbury is a good shout. If the garden isn't right, is it worth holding out for a different house? Alternatively you could look at getting an allotment. There are good sailing opportunities south of Cirencester, so easy for you to access.

Another place to look would be around the Chippenham villages eg Corsham. That way you are on the Bristol to London train line which would be easier for dh to commute and the kids could pop into Bath / Bristol when they are older, which would be more exciting than popping into Ciren.

Iwanttoliveinagardencentre · 03/11/2025 20:48

I live in the New Forest and love it but I am horsey and like peace and don’t want entertainment.
You sound like you only like the idea of living here but not the reality so I would go for Malmesbury.

tapandteacake · 03/11/2025 22:04

Brockmum88 · 03/11/2025 19:51

I know one young family that lives in sway. The smaller villages do have families, but not that many, and the schools struggle with funding- so they are not thriving as such. Although jubilee fields is a great play park (we have been a few times) and has a great pub and cafe. And butchers! (I like Sway!)

we moved to Brockenhurst last year, from London. Both grew up in Ringwood, so wanted family near for our little one who is now 30 months. Brockenhurst is great- trains to London for work, and lots of families in the area. 2 local toddler groups (termtime) good school/ preschool, events and activities around Christmas, fireworks etc. however in the winter the nearest play cafe is hythe or romsey! Very little nearby for indoor play. So you need to make connections for play dates or something.
As people have said- Brock is not cheap, but for us the Trainline sold it- meant we only need one car.

I do worry about the lack of indoor play options nearby when I heavily use them in Surrey! I also worry about the outdoor options too - the outdoor options I have here involve a cafe and toilets whereas I wonder if going into the open forest would actually be quite tough with two very small children.

I did go to the jubilee fields playground and there was no one else there! The deli was full when I went there on a weekday mid morning but only with people over the age of 70. I did find it quite isolating. When I went to the baby group I was so shocked to see lots of young mums and little kids, but then the rest of the week they just seemed to disappear. Unfortunately we can’t afford to live in Brockenhurst.

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tapandteacake · 03/11/2025 22:07

Gloschick · 03/11/2025 20:33

I would call your search Glos/Wilts border. South Glos is an entirely different county bordering Bristol! :)
Malmesbury is a good shout. If the garden isn't right, is it worth holding out for a different house? Alternatively you could look at getting an allotment. There are good sailing opportunities south of Cirencester, so easy for you to access.

Another place to look would be around the Chippenham villages eg Corsham. That way you are on the Bristol to London train line which would be easier for dh to commute and the kids could pop into Bath / Bristol when they are older, which would be more exciting than popping into Ciren.

I think if we hadn’t been searching for the last 10 months already, admittedly mostly in the new forest, and we weren’t currently expecting our second baby, sleeping in my parents spare room because we’ve already sold our house and generally feeling pretty miserable and scared about the future, we would hang on for a better garden in Gloucestershire/Wiltshire. But we’re really over the house hunt, we hate it, we just want some security and a home.

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Wolfiefan · 03/11/2025 22:10

If you’re worried about outdoor play near Malmesbury then join Westonbirt Arboretum. It’s lovely.

Talkinpeace · 03/11/2025 22:21

What is your rough budget and I'll have a quick think on housing areas

is that Ashurst house within your budget (linked up thread)

tapandteacake · 03/11/2025 22:22

Wolfiefan · 03/11/2025 22:10

If you’re worried about outdoor play near Malmesbury then join Westonbirt Arboretum. It’s lovely.

I’m not worried about outdoor play near Malmesbury, we did go to Westonbirt and really liked it. I can totally imagine having an annual membership there and going regularly with the kids.

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ShaunaOfTheDead · 04/11/2025 00:20

What is your budget?

New Milton has a play cafe.
There are public loos in the forest at some of the busier car parks.
Which beach did you visit that was 25 minutes drive? Hordle Cliff or Barton beach are 15 mins max.
Driving is inevitable, unless you jump on the train or walk out into the forest.
In your position I’d look at Christchurch or Southbourne. Your DH can use a Beryl bike or escooter to access Christchurch station and there is lots more going on.
Study the train timetable - Brock, New Milton and Christchurch get the fast Weymouth and Poole trains and there are additional peak services. Sway is on the slower stopping service and may sometimes entail a change at Brock. And the trains are not the most reliable and the late evening and weekend schedules are dire.

I wouldn’t overly worry about summer traffic unless you have reason to travel through Lyndhurst on a Friday/Saturday/Sunday. After all, you have the other 46 weeks to enjoy the forest and beaches like a local.

LondonGirrrrl · 04/11/2025 00:37

Malmesbury has great schools and strong community.

LondonGirrrrl · 04/11/2025 00:42

Cirencester and Chalford near Stroud are great too

Brockmum88 · 04/11/2025 11:12

ShaunaOfTheDead · 04/11/2025 00:20

What is your budget?

New Milton has a play cafe.
There are public loos in the forest at some of the busier car parks.
Which beach did you visit that was 25 minutes drive? Hordle Cliff or Barton beach are 15 mins max.
Driving is inevitable, unless you jump on the train or walk out into the forest.
In your position I’d look at Christchurch or Southbourne. Your DH can use a Beryl bike or escooter to access Christchurch station and there is lots more going on.
Study the train timetable - Brock, New Milton and Christchurch get the fast Weymouth and Poole trains and there are additional peak services. Sway is on the slower stopping service and may sometimes entail a change at Brock. And the trains are not the most reliable and the late evening and weekend schedules are dire.

I wouldn’t overly worry about summer traffic unless you have reason to travel through Lyndhurst on a Friday/Saturday/Sunday. After all, you have the other 46 weeks to enjoy the forest and beaches like a local.

New Milton play cafe closed a few years ago unfortunately. There is one in Christchurch though, and a fab one near Bournemouth airport which is nearer to sway.

driving is inevitable though as you said- but lots within a 40 min drive. Most within 30 mins, which I have to admit I would like shorter! But as my LO gets older 30 mins is fine.

longdown activity farm
moors valley
paultons park
play cafes in hythe, Christchurch and bournemouth
soft play in Ringwood & Applemore & romsey
toddler/ baby groups in brock, Lymington.
jiggly wrigglers/ forest school classes in Lymington.
classes including dance, rugby, football for toddlers across the new forest.

so there is quite a bit, but it did take me almost a year to build the knowledge!

Brockmum88 · 04/11/2025 11:14

Forgot to add Southampton as well, we enjoy the totally tots cinema screenings occasionally- 10am showings of the gruffalo, dog etc. also soft play in soton. Winchester science museum is amazing, but not a short drive. More ideal for a soaking wet weekend!

tapandteacake · 04/11/2025 11:29

Brockmum88 · 04/11/2025 11:12

New Milton play cafe closed a few years ago unfortunately. There is one in Christchurch though, and a fab one near Bournemouth airport which is nearer to sway.

driving is inevitable though as you said- but lots within a 40 min drive. Most within 30 mins, which I have to admit I would like shorter! But as my LO gets older 30 mins is fine.

longdown activity farm
moors valley
paultons park
play cafes in hythe, Christchurch and bournemouth
soft play in Ringwood & Applemore & romsey
toddler/ baby groups in brock, Lymington.
jiggly wrigglers/ forest school classes in Lymington.
classes including dance, rugby, football for toddlers across the new forest.

so there is quite a bit, but it did take me almost a year to build the knowledge!

That’s really helpful thank you. The beach we went to was Avon beach and my toddler loved it, even in slightly cold wet weather. Would we ever manage to go there in the summer months or is there somewhere better that the locals know about that avoids some of the tourists?

My toddler isn’t great in the car to be honest and I’m not great at getting him out of the house quickly in the morning or after his nap so I do worry about 30 minute drives as it would take up so much of the available time before the next meal or sleep is required! How old is your LO now?

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