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Semi detached, neighbour removed chimney breast from shared wall

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MissyGez · 14/09/2025 14:04

Around 2 years ago, new neighbours moved next door, we live in a semi detached house. The house did need a lot of work, but the first thing they did was removal the chimney breast, downstairs only on the shared wall. I had been at work when they started this, the neighbour popped round the next morning to say what he was doing and that there will be noise. The neighbour was doing some of the work himself with help from a builder.

I did wonder if this was done correctly and had put my trust in the neighbour as he has a young family and would not do any work that would put them at risk.

The neighbour has now started to build an extension himself which would be covered by permitted development. I started to look into building regs in case anything they do impacts us. The neighbour is doing the majority of the work himself and has got the builder back to help with the roofing, the work looks shoddy.

Its only when checking building regs that I see he would have had to have the chimney breast removal signed off by building control and he should have served a party wall notice.

I have had a conversation with my neighbour this morning about how he removed the chimney breast, he states he has only removed the downstairs part, when asked how it was support, he says they used timber. I did asked if this was signed off, he replied the council had been out but he also mentioned they came out for the kitchen. I did ask if he had the paperwork, its in his emails somewhere. I asked if he had consulted a structural engineer, he said his builder knows what he was doing, and he promised me it was safe, he did say he would call his builder! I also mentioned the party wall agreement, he did not know what that is, he tried to say he asked me for permission but I reminded him that he contacted after he started the work. Also they did not ask whether I had removed my chimney.

He invited me round to have a look but I declined as I'm not going to see anything as it will have been decorated, he said he has taken pictures. I was hoping to open up my fire place, and did asked him how does he know whether he done anything that compromises this. I did tell him that I would be calling building control tomorrow, he offered to do that on my behalf, but said I will be calling as I need to know if our house is a risk. Is there anything else I need to be aware of.

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MissyGez · 14/09/2025 14:07

Included picture of part of the extension, the so called builder has helped with the roofing, the standard is poor which has now got me worried.

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MissyGez · 14/09/2025 14:23

MissyGez · 14/09/2025 14:07

Included picture of part of the extension, the so called builder has helped with the roofing, the standard is poor which has now got me worried.

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Looks like I can't attach the picture

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Geneticsbunny · 14/09/2025 16:42

What are you asking?

Gingernaut · 14/09/2025 16:49

Removing a chimney breast requires steels to support the remaining structure

If your neighbour really did use wooden lintels/joists, then his work has left the remaining chimney, upstairs chimney breast structurally unstable

Coldnightsapproachingwhereismyduvet · 14/09/2025 16:53

Just speak to the planning department at your council office....

TheMeasure · 14/09/2025 16:58

Blimey. I would NOT be happy in your shoes.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 14/09/2025 17:12

I wanted to take out a chimney break but was specifically told it would be structurally unsafe to do what your neighbour did.

LibertyLily · 14/09/2025 17:38

Back in the day they used to use gallows brackets, but now it has to be steels.

When we wanted to remove the chimney breast in a ground floor room at our previous house (retaining the one above and the chimney itself), we had a structural engineer draw up plans/calculations and a massive steel was required/installed. All needed sign off by building control.

BeltaLodaLife · 14/09/2025 17:45

We had to have a structural engineer draw it up when my parents’a did this, and steel supports etc. Party wall agreement and, if I remember properly, some sort of indemnity insurance for something for the neighbours but I’ve no idea as I was a teen and didn’t care that much! I remember them having two quotes drawn up, and then the one they picked and the cost of the steels etc.

Bambamhoohoo · 14/09/2025 17:50

Although the chimney breast removals that I have done personally have required a structural engineer/ acros etc not all do- some chimneys are just “built on” and not structural.

unless you are a builder or engineer you’re not likely to know which it is so it’s best to speak to your planning dept. You may just have to get your own structural engineer out to write a report if it turns out that it impacts your property.

try not to panic- even if it was structural it could well have been done properly.

InSpainTheRain · 14/09/2025 18:06

My parents had exactly this - their neighbour removed his chimney breast downstairs and didn't put in proper supports causing both houses to have structural issues amd kind of twist and crack. I would get a structural engineer out to your property urgently and also go to the council planning offices after you have taken advice.

MissyGez · 14/09/2025 18:09

Gingernaut · 14/09/2025 16:49

Removing a chimney breast requires steels to support the remaining structure

If your neighbour really did use wooden lintels/joists, then his work has left the remaining chimney, upstairs chimney breast structurally unstable

Thanks, hat confirms what I have been reading today

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MissyGez · 14/09/2025 18:13

Thanks for the replies, everyone wanted to check I wasn't overreacting.I will be calling the planning department tomorrow.

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ThreePears · 14/09/2025 18:16

Yes, the council would be the best bet.

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