Help me make this layout better

[brusselsprout5]

How can I reconfigure this layout? We can move the toilet to under the stairs. I’d love to keep a utility room and have a bigger kitchen, perhaps taking down the walls in that whole side of the house.

The hall is a bit of a waste of space. My children also run around the house chasing each other at times which I hate!!

Can anyone see any better options? Looking for your genius ideas!

thanks

You’ll need to post a diagram

Is the front door at the top of the diagram where the vestibule is? Where is the garden / best views? The toilet in the middle is a real pain....any idea which way the drains go? Out to that side door or out the front?

Yes the vestibule is the front door. The front kitchen area is south facing. The waste pipe runs down through the house inside the downstairs toilet. Nice views from all windows.

Assuming that the front door is where the vestibule is:

I'd move the kitchen to the back and have a long kitchen/diner along the back of the house, incorporating the store/back hallway and the end of the living room. Big doors onto the garden at the living room end and then double doors leading through into the living room. You might need to add a turn on the stairs to be able to access them from the side of the hallway rather than the end.

Utility room more or less where it is now and then room at the front for an office/snug where the kitchen is now, blocking up the door from the utility.

What is the drainage like near the store?
Could you block in the front of the store, and the lower diningroom & livingroom doors and move the WC there - and keep the storage. Access to the kitchen, and front livingroom door maintained.

Then the current wc space gets incorporated into the kitchen diningroom, making that space more joined?

Agree, I would want to turn the existing kitchen into a loo / utility accessed on the right as you go into the house and then open the rest up to be a kitchen diner accessed by walking straight from the front door. Making space for a pantry if possible, either under the stairs or carved from the lootility.

always love a layout sketch :)
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(May have to wait for pics to attach)

first one, loo under stair, utility in the current WC. You could combine this space to make a loo-tility like others suggestions. Then big open kitchen diner to the right with pantry to the side. Lounge spaces on the left.

second: again WC and utility consolidate into the core of the plan. Then big kitchen/diner and living on the sides.

Are you aware you’ve switched the stairs around
On the existing plan it starts where you’ve put the toilet

love the sketches though

@DrPrunesqualer ahhh that little rectangle & text that says “landing” ah haha totally missed that.
Well no idea if you can flip the stairs that’s obviously dependant on the layout above.

Couldn’t resist another shot :) see pic when it loads. Basically whatever you do you need to keep edges from upstairs clear and not running through kitchen.

Egress! Not edges!!

Agree
Although would need to know where drainage / manhole is
and
whether OP has a raised floor
otherwise
that toilet would have to be a macerator ( they do come quite silent these days ) and still dependent on the floor
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Drainage is the issue when moving sanitary goods around it’s always an expensive move

Shame about the stairs though as your previous layout was better

Great ideas. How do I find out where drainage is? As I said there is a waste pipe running from top floor through corner of current downstairs toilet. That would need to stay but could be tucked away in a cupboard or continue being a boxed in pipe.

What’s a raised floor? We can go under the floor - there’s a gap & we’ve put insulation in there.

Drainage and water supply
If the first floor toilets are in the same approx location of the kitchen I’d say they are on the left of your plan down the side.

Look for the manhole. It’ll be there at the side or at the rear or front in that area. It depends how it links with your neighbours but that’s where all the water is coming into and draining out of the house.

Raised floor
Is simply a floor raised above the ground. Like most wooden floors. As opposed to a slab floor which is completely solid and sits on the ground with no gap.
A raised floor gives you the opportunity to run pipes through. However. All drainage and soil pipes must be laid to a fall ( ie run downwards ) so that water etc can run out.

I can see the boxed out soil pipe in your extg toilet so I would suggest you either
Put a new WC near that ensuring there is space to run the pipes or
Put in on the external wall on the left hand side so that you can run the soil pipes straight out and into the existing external underground drainage system. Again if you find the manhole it will confirm the run

You might find a WC is cheaper and easier to place at the front of the property on the left hand side of your plan.

That will give you the larger all through area you want for the kitchen and diner.
Under the stairs a WC looks like it will be too far from the soil pipe. A plumber will be able to confirm if there’s enough space under the floor to allow any soil pipes to fall in accordance with building regulations. I’d ask them if a macerator would be more appropriate if you are desperate for this location

( a macerating toilet mashes up solid waste to allow it both to flow out easily and means smaller pipes ) A WC on the external wall wouldnt need one

So basically
Bathrooms kitchens etc all need a supply of water and all need to drain water and sewage. Wherever you put them needs to be near the source

As an alternative thought OP
If you could turn the stairs around @MissterMummy s right hand plan would work well as the WC is right next to your existing soil stack that’s boxed out

That depends on your first floor layout but
isn't expensive to do
would allow you to go upstairs right from the front door

Agree with @DrPrunesqualer

@brusselsprout5 do you have a diagram of the first floor?