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frantic17 · 26/08/2025 21:15

Posting for advice. My daughter starts a graduate job in London mid September and has been looking to rent a 2 bedroomed flat in the Clapham area to share with a friend who is also starting work in London. Does anyone have any advice as to avenues they can try to find flats other than Rightmove/Zoopla etc and emailing all of the agents in the area? They are really struggling to find available properties, there is obviously massive demand and limited availability. Any advice very gratefully received!

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Itsnottheheatitsthehumidity · 26/08/2025 22:05

OpenRent?

Clapham is pricey. Does it have to be there?

Hello98765 · 26/08/2025 22:11

Rightmove and Zoopla are the only ways.

What's her issue - not seeing anything in price range, or not managing to get offers in before they are already let?

They need to be able to go see a flat and make an offer with deposit that day - the rental market is very competitive.

whattodoforthebest2 · 26/08/2025 22:14

She needs to register with active local lettings agents. The best places don’t even get to Rightmove etc because they’ve already been taken. She needs to have the deposit and references all ready to go so that she just needs to view and sign on the line. Demand is huge in Clapham, so it’s expensive. The more flexible she can be on location, the better chance she’ll have.

frantic17 · 27/08/2025 05:42

Thanks for the comments. They are struggling to get to see anything before they are already let. We are in Birmingham, she is ready to go down at the drop of a hat but can’t get appointments to see anything. Seems like an impossible task but I agree they need to widen their search area.

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whattodoforthebest2 · 27/08/2025 05:51

Actually going into the agents’ offices would be a good idea. They want to be the first people that come to mind when a new instruction comes in (ie “oh, those two nice girls from Birmingham…”), rather than be added to a mailing list or left as backup options.

jay55 · 27/08/2025 05:53

She also needs to get on local Facebook groups for areas she wants. Ours always has landlords saying I’ve got x available from y date, or people leaving a tenancy early.

And yes widen her search. I understand the allure of Clapham (and lived there myself in the past) but for a two bed she’s competing against established professionals with larger budgets, bigger salaries, who don’t need guarantors, and have longer rental histories and I can understand why she’s not getting been getting to see anything, as she’s not going to be the landlords choice.

as pp said open rent, also spare room will advertise whole places as well as just rooms.

Where is her office based? We might be able to suggest areas.

frantic17 · 27/08/2025 06:38

Great advice thank you so much. Her office is on Fenchurch Street. They are going down tomorrow, in theory have three properties to see if they don’t go before they get there. I will advise them to go into the offices of as many letting agents as they can.

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Yamamm · 27/08/2025 06:43

Has she been given any contacts in the new organisation yet? In the large business I work for we will allocate a buddy so new starters have a contact for random questions. People already working there can be really useful sources of info about housing.

frantic17 · 27/08/2025 07:00

@yamamm she definitely has a contact at her new company but I don’t think she’s been given any housing advice. Definitely worth asking the question.

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Ddakji · 27/08/2025 07:12

What about south east London? Slightly cheaper and the commute might be a little easier and doesn’t involve the hellish Clapham tube stations.

MsGoodenough · 27/08/2025 09:35

I was going to say the same. She should look in South East London.

Heronwatcher · 27/08/2025 10:08

Clapham is going to be really tough. Lots of flats there are owned and occupied and very very expensive. I’d recommend she looks in other areas where there is more to rent and better value. I’d recommend Vauxhall, Stockwell, Forest Hill, Brockley, New Cross and even some parts of Catford for a start- many more rental properties (either because they are a bit more transient in some cases, or close to a university, or just a bit better value). All will have nice areas and a few dodgy ones to avoid.

She needs to base herself there for a few days and get around all the local estate agents so they know she’s ready to go- as others have said then she will be first in line for new stuff before it even goes on the market.

frantic17 · 27/08/2025 10:25

I am really appreciative of all advice regarding alternative areas as I don’t know London suburbs at all so it’s very helpful we will have a look. If worst comes to the worst it is just about doable to get the train from Birmingham international to Liverpool Street for a short time although really expensive. I also worry if she doesn’t get anything before she starts work she won’t then have the time to be looking for flats. Thanks again all

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KievLoverTwo · 27/08/2025 11:14

I am really appreciative of all advice regarding alternative areas as I don’t know London suburbs at all so it’s very helpful we will have a look. If worst comes to the worst it is just about doable to get the train from Birmingham international to Liverpool Street for a short time although really expensive. I also worry if she doesn’t get anything before she starts work she won’t then have the time to be looking for flats. Thanks again all

starts a graduate job in London mid September

She needs to be extremely cautious. It's under exactly these circumstances people fall prey to landlord scammers.

At the VERY least, do reverse image searches for photographs for each rental and see if they come up under someone's air b and b or recently sold house.

If it looks too good to be true, it is. Rent 1250 in a 1700 area? Assume scam unless otherwise proven. Don't believe any LL you meet at a property actually owns it. Fair enough if she turns up at a legit EA and they take her there, but I would still even look them up on Company's House.

There was even a story on here last year where someone had a poor couple banging on their door ready to move in. Somehow, someone had got in, physically shown them around, took their deposit, and was never seen again. I think he did it to multiple people.

It costs £7 to download the title deeds from Land Registry to immediately see who owns a property, fyi.

frantic17 · 27/08/2025 11:21

@KievLoverTwoscary stuff thanks for the heads up. And there’s me thinking finding the grad job was going to be the hardest part… These kids have it rough, it was much easier in my day!

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KievLoverTwo · 27/08/2025 11:41

frantic17 · 27/08/2025 11:21

@KievLoverTwoscary stuff thanks for the heads up. And there’s me thinking finding the grad job was going to be the hardest part… These kids have it rough, it was much easier in my day!

Idk if they have it any rougher that when I first rented 34 years ago. I think people just have faster access to scams thus it becomes scarier because the information is presented to you more readily and more often. Oh, some of the things in some of my former homes, they'd make yer toes curl.

Anyway, make her aware of this:

https://england.shelter.org.uk/housingadvice/tenancydeposits/holdingdeposits

I actually thought it was 10 days, get her to google that more. Maybe it changed.

She must pay a week's rent to secure the rental whilst references etc are checked.

She should insist on getting a receipt for that holding deposit, and on that form it should say by which date the lease must have to be signed by. She must find it acceptable to her timeline. This does not have to be the tenancy start date.

She IS entitled to ask to see a copy of the lease BEFORE she puts down a holding deposit and if they refuse, they're breaking the law. If they say 'oh but we don't have it ready yet' she must say 'so send me the standard AST that you use to review please.'

She must be aware that if she agrees to any changes, she should review the entire lease again. I've had agents slip completely unreasonable terms in between v1 and v2 of a lease.

She IS then entitled to back out of it AND get her holding deposit back if there are unreasonable terms in the lease, which can get complicated, so:

  • As a general rule, to be upheld in law, terms need to be fair to both parties; LL's write an awful lot of shit in leases that they think the tenant will think they have to abide by because it's in a lease, but, when pushed in court, they don't have a leg to stand on

An example of not reasonable to both parties:

  • Being responsible for gardening of a 2 acre plot when renting a 1 bed flat with no space for tools
  • The landlord inspecting every 6 weeks
  • Refusing to put a break clause in a 2 year lease
  • A rent review at 6 months (which is literally illegal)
  • Insisting the tenant pay to have a 300 year old, 40 metre, SHARED cobbled/stone drive professionally cleaned at the end of the tenancy; the bloody thing looked like it was straight out of a Dickens book

Some of these things I have walked away from before agreeing. Some of these things I should have just said 'whatever' to, and 'good luck proving that's reasonable in court' at the end of the tenancy.

Finally, if all she can find is crap, there's a law coming in at the end of the year whereby she can give 2 months notice even if she's signed up for 12. So if all that's out there is not great, she should be quite confident that she'll probs be able to get out of it come February/March at the latest.

The Independent Landlord has an extensive blog and videos on all the changes that will come.

Feel free to bump this thread and tag me, or send me a DM. If you tag or DM me, I'll get an email.

I've seen all their tricks and would be happy to help.

frantic17 · 27/08/2025 11:56

@KievLoverTwo amazing advice I can’t thank you enough. They have widened their search area, now have 10 properties to see tomorrow and are staying over until Friday or Saturday to be on the ground ready. I will also make her aware of everything you’ve mentioned with regards to leases. Thinking about it, my mouldy bedsit in Manchester in 1994 which poured through the roof everytime it rained (which was a lot!) was not for the faint hearted so I take your point on them having it rough!

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jay55 · 27/08/2025 13:10

Brilliant they have so many to see.
Hope they find something. Fenchurch st is so versatile for commute can walk over from London Bridge or come in to Liverpool st, and loads of tube or buses, I don’t work far from there and get the dlr in to tower and walk.

DiscoBob · 27/08/2025 14:08

She'd be better off in East London if she works in fenchurch St.

KievLoverTwo · 06/09/2025 14:58

Hi @frantic17. How is your daughter getting on with her flat hunt?

I just happened across a scammer on Facebook so I thought I'd show you the details.

The Facebook advert:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1068807085444527/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A37360f09-128c-44bd-a9cb-3e23afa205e2

Description
3-Bedroom Apartment for Rent – 32 The Ropewalk, Nottingham NG1 5DW

£770/month
Property to rent

Dog and cat-friendly

The fabulous kitchen:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1068807085444527/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A37360f09-128c-44bd-a9cb-3e23afa205e2

The actual Rightmove advert:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/166594340#/?channel=RES_LET

The Ropewalk, NOTTINGHAM

£1,050 pcm
£242 pw

The property's real kitchen:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/166594340#/media?activePlan=1&id=media2&ref=photoCollage&channel=RES_LET

Suspicious things in the Facebook advert:

Estate agents never, ever give out the full address of rentals. Sometimes you might see it on the floorplans of an advert of a house for sale.

Landlords who own flats will never advertise 'dog and cat-friendly.' Never, ever ever. In fact, I have never seen a rental advert that says anything other than 'pets considered.'

The price. A flat of the quality of fake marketplace seller's advert in Nottingham would command 1900 + per month, not £770 a month.

The woman is renting out 4 properties in completely different regions. Dorset, Nottinghamshire, Gloucestershire and Essex. It's feasible that you might get an agent covering 2 or even 3 counties, but they'll at least all be in the same general geographical region.

Let us know how she's getting on?

Check out this 2 bedroom house for rent on Rightmove

2 bedroom house for rent in The Ropewalk, NOTTINGHAM, NG1 for £1,050 pcm. Marketed by William H. Brown Lettings, Nottingham

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/166594340#/?channel=RES_LET

frantic17 · 06/09/2025 16:30

Hi @KievLoverTwo thanks for checking back. They have secured a great flat in Clapham through Open Rent after viewing loads last week, it’s a big relief. They move in tomorrow. Open rent hold the first months rent for 10 days after the move in date to protect against rogue landlords and the deposit is held by my deposits. We are guarantor along with the other girls parents.

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KievLoverTwo · 06/09/2025 17:04

frantic17 · 06/09/2025 16:30

Hi @KievLoverTwo thanks for checking back. They have secured a great flat in Clapham through Open Rent after viewing loads last week, it’s a big relief. They move in tomorrow. Open rent hold the first months rent for 10 days after the move in date to protect against rogue landlords and the deposit is held by my deposits. We are guarantor along with the other girls parents.

That's fantastic news. Exciting adventures ahoy for them! <3

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