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yeehawl · 09/07/2025 16:56

rainingsnoring · 09/07/2025 16:44

Well it's the capital of the UK so obviously the most well known city in the country by a large margin. Plenty of tourists also go to Cornwall, the Lake District, the Cotswolds, etc so I'm not sure what your point is. What is clear is that some people value the lifestyle in central London and others prefer the country, some people love the Barbican style of architecture and others find it ugly. People have different tastes, no surprise there.

But I think that’s exactly the point - people have different tastes and value different things when looking to buy property. But there is always the same tedious script from non-Londoners about why their house in their location is bigger and therefore must be more valuable.

bohemianblasphemy · 09/07/2025 17:06

The target market is getting poorer for various reasons, there's just less of a pool of buyers who could afford it now rates have gone up.

LollyWillow · 09/07/2025 18:35

I haven't read all of this long thread so apologies if I'm repeating anything.
I would love to live in the Barbican ... but ... you need to accept that you are selling a lifestyle as much as a flat and it does need to be dressed for sale. As a minimum you need to get a handyman in to tidy up the kitchen then you need to get it furnished, preferably with some mid century pieces which you may be able to pick up cheap in flea markets of auctions. I have also seen flats of this type presented as two bedroom with the second bedroom behind the sliding doors in the L of the living room. Have a look on 'the modern house' website for ideas about furnishings and dressing.
The photographs also need to show the location - the arts centre, the lake, the conservatory. It will sell, but you have a limited pool of purchasers so need to put more effort than usual into thinking about the purchasers and marketing it to them.

rainingsnoring · 09/07/2025 18:58

yeehawl · 09/07/2025 16:56

But I think that’s exactly the point - people have different tastes and value different things when looking to buy property. But there is always the same tedious script from non-Londoners about why their house in their location is bigger and therefore must be more valuable.

I'm not sure they think their house must be more valuable as it is much bigger. I think some are expressing their genuine amazement at the prices and some are making comments about it being a waste of money, which is obviously subjective. Equally, there are snippy/patronising remarks from Londoners who think that living in London is much better than living else, which again is subjective.
I don't think there is any connection at all to those who think that Millennials and Gen Zs should stop eating avocado toast; that's just a question of maths!

pontivex · 09/07/2025 20:55

Gorgeous flat and Barbican is a dream location (ignore the non Londoners who are unable to appreciate this) but this looks depressing.

I think it needs full staging rather than some areas being empty. The kitchen looks horrible and on its last legs with nothing in it.

summertimeinLondon · 09/07/2025 21:13

pontivex · 09/07/2025 20:55

Gorgeous flat and Barbican is a dream location (ignore the non Londoners who are unable to appreciate this) but this looks depressing.

I think it needs full staging rather than some areas being empty. The kitchen looks horrible and on its last legs with nothing in it.

But some of us know the Barbican very well and think it’s great, but also still think this flat is overpriced, because all prime London property is right now; and the days of it all just continuing to rocket up into the stratosphere with no regard for the economic fundamentals are probably over.

rainingsnoring · 09/07/2025 21:41

summertimeinLondon · 09/07/2025 21:13

But some of us know the Barbican very well and think it’s great, but also still think this flat is overpriced, because all prime London property is right now; and the days of it all just continuing to rocket up into the stratosphere with no regard for the economic fundamentals are probably over.

Well that's definitely true. There is less demand generally now, particularly from wealthy foreigners.
@pontivex not all Londoners like the Barbican. Some people just don't like rather oppressive concrete.

rollerblind · 09/07/2025 22:12

The kitchen

Papricat · 09/07/2025 23:38

Don't listen OP to the riff-raff that doesn't understand architecture.

Littlebeausheepish · 10/07/2025 09:52

Get a survey done! they will also provide you with some clear findings either do a homebuyers survey yourself or get a digital property condition done as both work and will give you objective view on what it is

IleftmybaginNewportPagnell · 10/07/2025 10:05

Childfreesummer · 09/07/2025 16:05

Do you know the Barbican or have you been there? It’s an incredible arts centre, with a theatre, arts cinema, multiple spaces for music performances, it hosts exhibitions, has a restaurant, botanical conservatory, residents garden and excellent transport links in a central part of London. It’s full of life at all times of day. Imagine living within all that, and then able to escape to the quiet of your own home within minutes of watching a play and having a quick supper in the restaurant. I can’t imagine anything better for my retirement years if I had the money (as many, many people in London, and amongst the global elites, do).

I’ve read most of this thread and completely agree with you! Was always my dream to retire to The Barbican, I feel so relaxed just walking round there. Perhaps some people commenting don’t realise it’s the whole complex and its proximity, as you describe.

C8H10N4O2 · 10/07/2025 11:27

IleftmybaginNewportPagnell · 10/07/2025 10:05

I’ve read most of this thread and completely agree with you! Was always my dream to retire to The Barbican, I feel so relaxed just walking round there. Perhaps some people commenting don’t realise it’s the whole complex and its proximity, as you describe.

Yes I’m assuming the people surprised at the price don’t know it. Brutalism isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but that location is a premium location even within London and the flats are generally of a good size. Yes there are known issues with the Corporation of London but the Barbican is still one of the most desirable blocks in London.

@zzuple I would get the lease sorted out and then remarket it with better agents and probably at a higher price once the lease is extended.

The pictures are really poor for a good sized flat in a very desirable location and the description doesn’t make anything of the selling points (which do include the original features). Its odd that in an era when property details have too many random pictures, this agent doesn’t even have pictures of all the rooms.

GasPanic · 10/07/2025 14:42

C8H10N4O2 · 10/07/2025 11:27

Yes I’m assuming the people surprised at the price don’t know it. Brutalism isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but that location is a premium location even within London and the flats are generally of a good size. Yes there are known issues with the Corporation of London but the Barbican is still one of the most desirable blocks in London.

@zzuple I would get the lease sorted out and then remarket it with better agents and probably at a higher price once the lease is extended.

The pictures are really poor for a good sized flat in a very desirable location and the description doesn’t make anything of the selling points (which do include the original features). Its odd that in an era when property details have too many random pictures, this agent doesn’t even have pictures of all the rooms.

No matter how desirable it is it is still going to have to be priced appropriately in order for it to sell.

It does appear to be a specialist property so asking for advice on here is likely to lead to some comments not understanding that particular issue and how it affects price, what the features do for it etc.

If I had a property like that I would probably talk to a specialist agent.

HobnobsChoice · 11/07/2025 02:53

I'm not a Londoner and live in a modern (sadly not modernist).house in the North. In my alternative life where I don't have kids and trained for a much more lucrative job or was born to a richer family I would have loved to have lived in the Barbican in my 20s and 30s.

Anyway, this flat was furnished in the right style for the building without being a pastiche or a time capsule.
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/details/09e78d36-029b-4c9e-b575-a54749edc55c

This one as well www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/details/95edf15f-e7d5-4d7f-906d-d49647d45aa9

House Price History

View house price history reproduced using Land Registry and Rightmove data.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/details/09e78d36-029b-4c9e-b575-a54749edc55c

beetr00 · 11/07/2025 03:11

Papricat · 09/07/2025 23:38

Don't listen OP to the riff-raff that doesn't understand architecture.

Who'd pay 800k to live in colditz?

Not this piece of riff-raff, oh no, no, no. 😀

mathanxiety · 11/07/2025 03:17

potplantsinparadise · 08/07/2025 22:08

It's in the Barbican in Central London!!! Of course it's appropriately priced.

OP, I would buy this in a second if I could afford it but the short lease is the problem. The service charge is also quite eye watering but I assume that's what you get for an institution like this.

Same.

Is that the original kitchen?

mathanxiety · 11/07/2025 03:19

C8H10N4O2 · 10/07/2025 11:27

Yes I’m assuming the people surprised at the price don’t know it. Brutalism isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but that location is a premium location even within London and the flats are generally of a good size. Yes there are known issues with the Corporation of London but the Barbican is still one of the most desirable blocks in London.

@zzuple I would get the lease sorted out and then remarket it with better agents and probably at a higher price once the lease is extended.

The pictures are really poor for a good sized flat in a very desirable location and the description doesn’t make anything of the selling points (which do include the original features). Its odd that in an era when property details have too many random pictures, this agent doesn’t even have pictures of all the rooms.

Yes to all of this.

The photos don't do it justice, and you need to market it abroad as well as in the UK.

begone25 · 11/07/2025 03:37

As others have said you’d be better going with a specialist estate agent,
https://themodernhouse.com/
https://www.modernistestates.com/
https://www.nicolalee.co.uk/

Don’t change any original features (kitchen & bathroom) as these are highly desirable for many buyers in the Barbican. Staging/ dressing the property would make a huge difference, this company specialise in this property period:

https://modernshows.com/property-staging/

Lastly the lease length is not ideal, maybe look at what’s involved in extending this and tie the extension process in to the conveyancing.

C8H10N4O2 · 11/07/2025 11:58

GasPanic · 10/07/2025 14:42

No matter how desirable it is it is still going to have to be priced appropriately in order for it to sell.

It does appear to be a specialist property so asking for advice on here is likely to lead to some comments not understanding that particular issue and how it affects price, what the features do for it etc.

If I had a property like that I would probably talk to a specialist agent.

Its currently priced on the low side for the size and location of the property, as everyone familiar with the block has pointed out. The lease and the shitty details are the likely problems.

As I said I would get the lease sorted out and then remarket it with better agents

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