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How much would you pay for this (Rochester locals)

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Amyc24 · 26/06/2025 19:59

Hey guys x
Found this property and it’s basically perfect but it’s over my budget! 😭 and the fact it’s been on the market since march tells me it is probably overpriced too (my guess is the sellers aren’t budging on price). How much would you pay for this? And how do you suggest I approach in terms of offers please? Thx
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/159838430#/?channel=RES_BUY

Check out this 5 bedroom detached house for sale on Rightmove

5 bedroom detached house for sale in Niven Close, Wainscott, Rochester, Kent. ME3 for £600,000. Marketed by Moxy Property Consultants, Rochester

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/159838430#/?channel=RES_BUY

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KievLoverTwo · 26/06/2025 21:20

That is not Rochester, it's in Strood. Rochester is a quite well-to-do, rather quaint, historic area that is on the other side of the river to Strood, and Strood is a dive, with some rather lovely big houses in pockets on the outskirts.

So, whatever you decide it is worth, it shouldn't be priced as being in Rochester, because it's not, and the difference between the two is night and day.

If I had 600k to spend on a house in Strood, I wouldn't spend it on a SHNB house on a SHNB estate. It's been 30 years, but I recall Wainscott was considered to be quite a fancy area and quite safe. The reason I know Strood is still a dive is because family members who still live there say as much.

I'd go for the bigger houses with more space around them, perhaps on Rede Court Road. I always lusted after the oast houses there:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/details/c731be24-ba0a-41c0-b66b-d622f6ed9fa2?id=media0

NB: all the estate agents call Strood 'Rochester', and I think even some of the postcode autofill thingies call houses in Strood Rochester, but, trust me, almost nobody wants to live in Strood if they can avoid it (the town centre is shocking), but lots of people want to live in Rochester.

House Price History

View house price history reproduced using Land Registry and Rightmove data.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/details/c731be24-ba0a-41c0-b66b-d622f6ed9fa2?id=media0

Amyc24 · 26/06/2025 21:30

Oh wow!!!
lots to unpick here!! Didn’t realise Strood was not a nice area.. I’m not from Kent but the estate agent referred to it as Rochester. What does SHNB mean lol?
Ive viewed the property and think I’d still buy it but just not for 600k just unsure what to offer really.::

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Bluevelvetsofa · 26/06/2025 22:06

It mentions restrictive covenants, but doesn’t say what they are. I’d want to know that.

Amyc24 · 26/06/2025 22:10

@Bluevelvetsofa thank you!! I totally did not notice that, I’ll be asking questions..

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CatchHimDerry · 26/06/2025 22:11

Second hand new build. Is it worth 600k, don’t know the area but doesn’t scream good value to me as an outsider …

Tooteefrootee · 26/06/2025 22:24

Agree with PP. Avoid Strood like the plague.

soupyspoon · 26/06/2025 22:39

There is very little for that price for that number of bedrooms in actual Rochester, there are a couple, one on the high street, which isnt the nicest bit and one up near the border with Chatham

To be honest when people say 'this place is a dive' you need to think about what they are comparing it to, anyone can say that about somewhere, but lots of people are happy and live well in places where other people turn their nose up

KievLoverTwo · 26/06/2025 23:09

To be honest when people say 'this place is a dive' you need to think about what they are comparing it to, anyone can say that about somewhere, but lots of people are happy and live well in places where other people turn their nose up

This is good advice, and the PP is not wrong.

So, all of my family grew up on council estates in South London. Ours was the sort of estate where a kid wouldn't be allowed out on their own without older sibling supervision. One where I saw my mum get violently mugged in front of me. The muggers returned to beat her and her friend up, in front of us - then aged 7 and 10. Muggings and stabbings were common.

We moved to Strood and half our family followed.

Every one of them referred to Strood as a shithole, both when they lived there and afterwards.

The two who remain still call it a shithole.

These are not people who have airs and graces; there are no Hyacinth Buckets in my family.

Of course, as with everywhere, there are pockets of Strood that are absolutely gorgeous, with lovely houses, and are probably quite safe.

But the town centre is an absolute dive with no redeeming features and I'm not aware of any investment having happened. I can't think of a single place you would want to go to. It's not a shopping destination, dining, not even any nice drinking establishments as far as I'm aware.

There's a very long road that leads into the town centre called Darnley Road. In the summer, the residents there drag their sofas out and put them on the pavement to sit in the sun. Maybe they don't have gardens? Idk. But it made them the butt of many jokes.

It's the sort of place where people would admit to living whilst claiming 'but nearer to x or y' - basically, the nicer places.

I think to really get the measure of a place, you need to spend a lot of time walking or driving around it at various times of the day.

There's absolutely no way I'd walk up Darnely Road on my own after dark, for example.

So another way I try to consider the nature of a town when I can't physically get to it is to put it into google and hit 'news' - these are some of the things I found on the first four pages of search results:

Woman sentenced to life imprisonment for Strood murder
Woman who murdered Strood man jailed for life
Violent man bit off part of victim's ear in Strood
Search for missing Gillingham couple moves to Strood
Huge chain retailer unexpectedly shuts after landlord repossesses property
Teen taken to hospital after 'assault' at school football match
Major search launched after 'reports of body' in river
Staff in tears as 'much-loved' community shop rocked by 25k rent bill
Strood: Council considers selling off 13th Century manor
Man in his 70s dies after falling into river
Woman accused of murder 'stabbed partner six times in the back as he ate pizza'
Bargain hunters queue for hours for Poundstretcher opening
Body found near supermarket amid search for missing man
Suspect charged after e-bike rider seen driving in 'unsafe manner' down high street
Man charged and two more arrested after town stabbing
Emergency services descend on cul-de-sac behind pub to assist officers engaged in arrest

Those are all from the last year.

OP should absolutely make up her own mind and due her due diligence, I've said all I need to say now - there's a reason people from Strood, in the main, tell people they're from Rochester.

There are many far nicer parts of Kent to live in if you have 600k. Iirc the only things it had going for it was its proximity to Rochester and that it's just off the A2.

I've lived in loads of rough areas in both Kent and London as an adult, but even if the house was a mega bargain (I can't believe my dream oast house sold for 640k!), I STILL wouldn't return, because - I can take rough - but to do so, even for a dream house, the place needs to have other redeeming features.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 27/06/2025 06:51

No idea on the area but from the satellite photo its in the middle of farmland , a peninusla of building in an area of green..... is that going to be sold up and built on?

Biggest bedroom is 11'4x10'6 which isn't that big (ours is 12'x10' which is ok but not generous by the time you get furniture in)

Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 06:58

Blimey @Amyc24 sounds like you're better off looking in actual Rochester even if that means buying a smaller house.

XVGN · 27/06/2025 08:44

How does it compare to No. 5 which sold for £530K in January (deal presumably done around Sep/Oct 2024)? Have prices gone up or down in the area since then?

Gotobloodysleep · 27/06/2025 09:34

It’s not strood, it’s Wainscott. It is a quieter area but that estate backs onto the bypass which is very busy. It is lined with trees, so not sure about noise but suggest you visit at rush hour to see about noise.

The Medway area itself has always been historically a low socioeconomic status. This has not changed. The Wainscott area has good schools nearby and lots of green space. The drs in Wainscott/cliffe are quite good.

However there are plans to build between Wainscott and cliffe. It seems reasonably priced for the area. But the market is moving slower. the traffic in the area can be a pain, especially if there is a crash somewhere or there is roadworks going on, the whole Medway area can clog up if there is an accident on the a2/m20. Public transport is expensive and can be a pain but train links to London are good.

The town centres are dying nobody goes to Gillingham, Chatham only if they have to and strood just to pick up the bits you need. Bluewater is 15mins down the road for bigger shops. There is a next, matalan, Morrisons, sports direct in strood. Rochester is full of independent shops and cafes during the day and very rowdy bars at night. The hobbycraft that shut down was because they hadn’t paid rent for ages.

overall, the area has its issues. Medway council is on the verge of bankruptcy and has been for a few years but it’s not horrendous. Dodgy areas can and are avoided, I can’t remember the last time I went down Darnley road.

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