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I would NEVER buy a house with…

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Wyr · 24/05/2025 12:10

  • solar panels
  • a ‘garden house’ IE a lockdown special outdoor wooden shed dressed up as an office - usually taking up half the garden and completely pointless
  • a neighbour who has a load of cars / shit in their yard - hoarder vibes

who’s next? 3 things that would make you not buy a house…

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Todaysworldandbiscuits · 25/05/2025 16:02

EmmaRose89 · 24/05/2025 22:17

Any of these would be dealbreakers for me

Isolated
Dodgy neighbours
Spiral staircase
Steep garden
3 or more stories
Main bathroom downstairs
No downstairs loo
No side access

I would like to have

Open plan kitchen/diner with a separate living room and playroom.
Large north or north/west facing garden so there are sunny spots but house doesn't get too hot
Engineered wood floor
Underfloor heating
Mature garden
Calm colour palette ( no red kitchen etc)
Solar panels
Nice aluminium or aluclad windows

Gosh, I have never heard anybody want a north facing garden in the UK. The issue most of the year is keeping the house warm, not cooling it down.

4444223e · 25/05/2025 16:13

Cattenberg · 24/05/2025 23:53

The downside of those beautiful double-fronted symmetrical houses...

Our house is a double-fronted symmetrical one. The front door opens in a centre hall with rooms opening off of it to the right and left. The staircase is against one wall of the centre hall, after you pass the door openings. I'm not clear how this is a problem?

4444223e · 25/05/2025 16:24

EmmaRose89 · 25/05/2025 12:17

@godmum56

Underfloor heating is generally less stuffy than radiators because it warms the floor and objects directly, maintaining natural humidity.
It uses radiant heat, which warms objects directly without heating the air. This results in a more even temperature distribution and better humidity control.
Radiators rely on convection, where hot air rises and circulates leading to drafts and dry air and creates a stuffy atmosphere.

Since moving to a house with underfloor I have noticed a huge difference.

I concur with this. It's by far the nicest heating we've ever had

pinkfloralcurtains · 25/05/2025 16:41

Bluebellwood129 · 25/05/2025 13:27

It's not based on anything. Calculations done on a specific property using accurate data for the actual models you want to install are the only way to know. The variation between them is huge, as is the difference in purchase and installation costs.

If it’s not based on anything then your assertions of a 40 year payback is meaningless. What a bizarre thing to say.

WithManyTot · 25/05/2025 16:56

coolmum123 · 25/05/2025 09:25

An aeroplane on your drive? What type of plane do you have? I am genuinely interested. Or are you Tom Cruise having a casual post on MN?! 😁

It's a small light aircraft, but with the wings folded and in a bigish trailer, so maybe not the Tom Cruise image you may have had, but for the purposes of a light hearted thread like this......

Bluebellwood129 · 25/05/2025 17:06

pinkfloralcurtains · 25/05/2025 16:41

If it’s not based on anything then your assertions of a 40 year payback is meaningless. What a bizarre thing to say.

Payback on my heat pump was 4.3 years - in line with the calculations done prior to purchase and installation. You clearly know nothing, but feel free to keep spouting rubbish.

DaphneduM · 25/05/2025 17:08

Things I wouldn't want in a house:

Leasehold
No mains drainage
Bi-fold doors
Kitchen 'island'
Open plan - much prefer separate rooms you can close off
Plastic grass
No garden
No parking
No garage
Garden overlooked
No Front garden as a buffer from the road
Attached (have been in the past, such a joy to be detached finally)
No downstairs loo
Dark rooms
Poky hall
Only one bathroom
No bus stop, pub, village shop within walking distance (big compromise here is that this means living on a main road)
No easy access to nearest towns and cities

MarthaLou · 25/05/2025 17:18

Dealbreakers for me:

Mullioned windows - criss/cross style. Not sure if that’s the right term. Makes me feel claustrophobic

Tiny en-suite. Would rather not have one at all.

Conservatory. Just feels like being in a greenhouse. Usually too warm/cold/exposed for me.

HostaCentral · 25/05/2025 17:22

Gosh, I have never heard anybody want a north facing garden in the UK. The issue most of the year is keeping the house warm, not cooling it down

You do if you are in the South East. Need some shade in the Summer. The front is then of course South facing, and baking, and you have to keep your front windows and blinds down all day.

In the Winter if we have sun on the front, we don't need the heating on.

theDudesmummy · 25/05/2025 17:27

@Boreded sorry, I only got back to the thread now so there's been a lot of water under the bridge since then! No, we don't have water bills in Ireland. Also, the equivalent of council tax is paid yearly and for our house it's about €250 a year, so you don't have to think about that most of the time either. Electricity and heating oil are expensive though, which is why our solar system is going to pay for itself pretty soon.

Woodenpergola · 25/05/2025 17:32

Why do so many people not want a kitchen island?

RampantIvy · 25/05/2025 17:35

LibertyLily · 25/05/2025 12:56

For me it's -
Solar panels
Artificial grass
No neighbours Right of Way over my garden

We've also previously owned a thatched house and one on a busy (A) road and agree with @FairlyFarleigh, never again!

We recently downsized to a seaside period cottage and it has quite a few things that are on other posters' lists, most notably -

Front door opens into a living space (although it's not the living room but the dining end of the kitchen) - we call it the dining hall, lol!

It's grade 2 listed.

If the house already has solar panels installed what is the problem?

Ours were installed 13 years ago. Last year our total energy costs over 12 months for gas and electricity came to £141.11.

This year we have paid £46.45 so far.

No-one sits in their gardens looking at the roof.

The only downside for us is when it snows it slides off the roof onto our conservatory, but it hasn't caused any damage so far.

Boreded · 25/05/2025 17:36

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 24/05/2025 21:55

I am actually doubting that with your OTT reaction to a random person saying they think solar panels are ugly. You have taken it very personally. Very strange. Why are you so angry? Confused Why do you care what some random stranger on the internet thinks?

I will leave it there, and won't communicate with you anymore on this thread. I can see you're upset. I don't know why, but I can see that you are.

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Edited

Why are you intentionally trying to provoke a response. Does it make you feel special because you are on an anonymous board and so you can say whatever you want?

who hurt you sweetheart?

theDudesmummy · 25/05/2025 17:37

We are building our kitchen at the moment and are planning to have a moveable island/bar. (Well, we will see how it looks and functions, maybe we will change our minds, but we like the idea atm!).

Boreded · 25/05/2025 17:37

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 25/05/2025 11:05

Yes of course. Let's get triple glazing and a heat pump too! Adding an extra 7-10 years onto the 10-15 years it takes people to pay off solar panels. So roughly 20 years before most people start making any money back!

Do you actually know how heat pumps cost?! All this 'they have this and that and the other' to cut on electric bills trope people are spouting, never comes with the FACT that they are probably shelling out £20,000 or more for all the things that are 'saving' them money on electric! (If we're talking triple glazing as well!)

For most people it will be 2 decades before the solar panels and heat pump and triple glazing (that are meant to 'save money,') actually pay for themselves. (If you had all 3!) Even the solar panels alone could take 10-12 years or more to 'pay for themselves.' The 'I'm making money on my electric, and the solar panels have already paid for themselves after 2 years' type of scenario is very rare. Most people will wait many years before they start to pay for themselves.

I wouldn't have solar panels OR a heat pump personally. Not in a million years.

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I feel like you might be a global warming denier

pinkfloralcurtains · 25/05/2025 17:51

Bluebellwood129 · 25/05/2025 17:06

Payback on my heat pump was 4.3 years - in line with the calculations done prior to purchase and installation. You clearly know nothing, but feel free to keep spouting rubbish.

Edited

You’ve got the wrong end of the stick! I’m very much pro electrification, renewables and energy efficiency.

I was asking the previous poster how they could assert 40 odd year paybacks on double glazing - an unusual assertion to make given you (usually) can’t actually install anything less than double glazing these days as the U-value on single glazing is too high to pass building regs… and has been since 2002.

4.3 yrs is really good going for payback on a heat pump, so well done.

Nannyfannybanny · 26/05/2025 08:50

HostaCentral, we're in the SE, very near the "sunshine coast"..,0n average making £80 a month with the solar panels. You're correct of course a north facing back garden equates to a south facing front . As it's 200 feet long there's always sun. We had quarter of an acre,south facing, watering was an absolute nightmare,we grew peaches outside about 20 years ago.

4444223e · 26/05/2025 10:41

Woodenpergola · 25/05/2025 17:32

Why do so many people not want a kitchen island?

They're a pet Mumsnet hate, like en suites. Some posters lack the imagination to know they can be very nice indeed and others advocate for a 'peninsular' instead.

Ours is roughly modelled on this one and we could not love it more
https://plainenglishdesign.com/kitchen/soho-factory/

Soho Factory Luxury English Kitchen | Custom Kitchen Cabinetry

This contemporary kitchen situated at the heart of an open-plan London loft embraces colour beautifully. Explore this modern Plain English kitchen here.

https://plainenglishdesign.com/kitchen/soho-factory/

DancingDucks · 26/05/2025 10:43

4444223e · 26/05/2025 10:41

They're a pet Mumsnet hate, like en suites. Some posters lack the imagination to know they can be very nice indeed and others advocate for a 'peninsular' instead.

Ours is roughly modelled on this one and we could not love it more
https://plainenglishdesign.com/kitchen/soho-factory/

I have an island in my kitchen, which I love, but I'm not sure I'd say that if someone doesn't like them they 'lack imagination'. It's just a personal preference, not a personal insult.

4444223e · 26/05/2025 10:50

DancingDucks · 26/05/2025 10:43

I have an island in my kitchen, which I love, but I'm not sure I'd say that if someone doesn't like them they 'lack imagination'. It's just a personal preference, not a personal insult.

I did say some posters, not meaning to tar all with the same brush. But often when someone posts about a kitchen renovation people seem to not realise that not all islands are necessarily giant monolithic hunks occupying 3/4 of the room.

TeenLifeMum · 26/05/2025 11:15

DancingDucks · 26/05/2025 10:43

I have an island in my kitchen, which I love, but I'm not sure I'd say that if someone doesn't like them they 'lack imagination'. It's just a personal preference, not a personal insult.

I love the look but in my family it would be a dumping ground for mess and drive me nuts. What I personally don’t like is when people have a kitchen diner and have an island instead of a proper dining table. I saw that recently in an expensive home and just thought I’d need to take it out and that would likely mean replacing a huge expanse of flooring.

TeenLifeMum · 26/05/2025 11:15

DancingDucks · 26/05/2025 10:43

I have an island in my kitchen, which I love, but I'm not sure I'd say that if someone doesn't like them they 'lack imagination'. It's just a personal preference, not a personal insult.

I love the look but in my family it would be a dumping ground for mess and drive me nuts. What I personally don’t like is when people have a kitchen diner and have an island instead of a proper dining table. I saw that recently in an expensive home and just thought I’d need to take it out and that would likely mean replacing a huge expanse of flooring.

TeenLifeMum · 26/05/2025 11:16

Dodgy WiFi in the garden has duplicated my post. Sorry.

Sesma · 26/05/2025 11:21

Woodenpergola · 25/05/2025 17:32

Why do so many people not want a kitchen island?

I hate the ones with 3 dangly lights, always reminds me of something that Dexter would use or an operating theatre

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 26/05/2025 11:30

Sesma · 26/05/2025 11:21

I hate the ones with 3 dangly lights, always reminds me of something that Dexter would use or an operating theatre

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