Buyers not paid for oven!

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Hi,

Small thing but really annoying. Home buyers agreed to pay for freestanding oven which I left. Not much - market second hand was £350-400 and they pushed me to £200 - annoying, but saved me moving it. But they have not paid a week later!

Was a rushed completion and only arranged last few days via (useless) estate agents as solicitor said not part of their remit.

Now what? Shall I go to their solicitors? They knew what they were doing I think!!

They haven't said they can't pay until payday. They're just trying not to pay.

You're the one who used the example of debt collectors, now you're saying it's a different situation. 🙄

Knock on the door, when they answer say you’re there to collect the oven or payment for it. Give them 15 minutes.

A little bit jobsworth. I would expect them to help.

@wisteriadriveSmall claims costs £60!

she’ll get that back in the judgement. 🤷🏻‍♀️

🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ They AGREED on a price AFTER haggling.

AGREEMENT is the relevant word here.

This isn’t anything to do with the house sale. This is a separate matter concerning the sale of white goods. A contract has been created. This is junior school law 101. 🤷🏻‍♀️

It’s astonishing to me that so many posters on this thread don’t have a basic understanding of contract law?

Yes, I am legally qualified.

This should have been added to the balance by the solicitor. It shouldn’t have been paid for separately.

But I would let it go since it’s only £200 which is small change compared to the price of a house.

Also I would not have charged extra for an oven, since they’re usually fitted and include in a house sale.

Small claims if not agreed via solicitor

Sorry but we just left our new oven, boiler, insulated outdoor sheds, extra bedroom furniture, all which we paid a huge amount for for the buyers to have.

We just asked them if they would like these features or should we take them away.

Our previous house, they did ask if we wanted to pay for some of the furniture, which we wanted and did.

I think we learnt that it was nice to be able to offer whether to have or we would sell, a case of passing forward. Xxx

Have you any photos of it?
If so put it on freecycle and send people round to your old address. Innocently assuming that they don't want it because they haven't paid . 😇

(Well, no, obviously don't do this).

Not sure why you charged for an oven that you didn’t need in the first place. I’d have just left it.

Is this a free-standing, standard sized cooker?

Of course it was fair, if the buyer agreed to it👍

Dear (new residents)

I realise this must be a busy time for you but can I ask you to please send me the £200 you agreed to pay for my nearly new oven. Here are my details:

Then leave a week and go for it again. Keep nagging until they pay up gradually getting more concerned and saying 'I wouldn't like to have to make a formal claim'.

Good luck!

yes but it’ll be more trouble and money than it’s worth to pursue it 🤷🏽‍♀️

When we bought our current house we arranged to buy the dishwasher from the vendors, it was marked as 'You can buy this from us' with £100 for the price wanted. We checked the prices of new slimline dishwashers and realised that if it worked OK then it was a good buy for us. (It did work but was incontinent sometimes - I often walked into the kitchen and trod in an unexpected puddle!) The same form also showed that the vendors were taking their cooker, so that was something we had to buy brand new.

I don't know how we paid for the dishwasher but as it was on the fixtures and fittings list it clearly formed part of the contract. I'm sure the vendors would have been annoyed if we had said we wanted the dishwasher but then not paid for it. And we didn't have a spare bean after all the house purchase stuff, so having to buy a cooker wasn't fun but I don't expect the sellers should just leave it just because other sellers do?

It absolutely should be within the solicitors' remit, the agreement to sell the cooker should have been part of the contract on the form. But if OP hadn't completed that to say she would sell it, then she's on a sticky wicket and it's unlikely she'll now get the money for it. It should have been agreed before exchange.

Then what happens after 15 minutes if the £200 doesn’t materialise? The Op can hardly barge her way in to remove it. Even if the owners call her bluff to remove it she’ll most likely have to hire a van and get a couple of men to help out. Could cost more than £200.

it’s naughty that the new owners haven’t paid but I think the Op sadly has to suck it up.

I think it's horribly tight to ask the buyers to pay for something as basic as an oven and I can't stand such tightness, so yes, I think it's unfair (a politer way of saying this than accusing the OP of being a total scrooge).

I've moved several times and I have never been in a situation as a buyer or seller where the oven was considered separate to the kitchen. That included 2 properties with large free standing ranges - one as a seller, and one as a buyer. These were at least £2,000 new and had a solid resale value, but there was no asking for a separate deal in either case - they came with. If you sell a house with a complete kitchen, it seems to be a reasonable expectation for that kitchen to include a cooker. Plus they weren't part of your purchasing decision, so it being new is nothing to do with them. I'm really not trying to make you feel bad, but I think you're being a little bit cheeky, and I'm only guessing that they will have realised the same.

This is nuts. You’ve presumably been paid 100’s of 1000’s for the house. You presumably have an oven in your new house. Why quibble over £200?

It sounds like OP agreed to it after exchange. There’s nothing the conveyancer can do that OP can’t. It comes within litigation now and conveyancing solicitors rarely deal with both.

Surely ovens are fixtures, always have been.

It's completely standard to give the choice to buyers to buy oven, and all the fixture and fittings they want to buy.

Just because you are buying their property, it's ridiculous to assume that the sellers are wealthy and can afford to give everything away, and WHY should they?

It should be agreed and resolved before exchange, not discussed after.

Nope. Ovens are included as standard fixture. White goods are sometimes negotiated for.
The OP was tight in trying to get some extra £££ for the oven.
I'm not sure where your rant came from but whatever issues you have are nothing to do with this.