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blocked access to communal back garden

257 replies

Turnbull2 · 05/05/2025 16:43

I have just moved into my flat in Glasgow and have a particularly unfriendly neighbour in my block of 6 flats. He has added his own additional door lock with padlock as pictured to the only door to the shared back garden of ~2000sq ft. He has used the whole garden, planting his vegetables with shallow trench beds of soil throughout the garden. It is supposed to be a shared garden, none of the other tenants care as they are students. What is the law that I could bring up and actions I can take if he continues to refuse to give me the keys to access to the shared garden?

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SheilaFentiman · 06/05/2025 17:11

ThejoyofNC · 06/05/2025 16:59

If he ignores the letter then contact the police and ask them for assistance. He's breaking the law.

I think this might be a civil rather than criminal matter. IANAL though.

housethatbuiltme · 06/05/2025 17:35

MrsPlantagenet · 05/05/2025 19:50

The principal exit (ie the main front door) is the fire exit. There would not be a secondary alternative ground floor means of escape in most scenarios.

Of course there would, building are required to have 2 or more independent exits so if the fire blocks one theres a secondary route.

Where do you live with such lapsed fire safety???

Lotsofthings · 06/05/2025 17:48

The sellers could be in breach as they sold the flat knowing that they didn’t have access to the garden or cellar. Speak to solicitors.

MiddlingMarch · 06/05/2025 18:59

housethatbuiltme · 06/05/2025 17:35

Of course there would, building are required to have 2 or more independent exits so if the fire blocks one theres a secondary route.

Where do you live with such lapsed fire safety???

A 140 year old tenement building, maybe?

Turnbull2 · 07/05/2025 01:57

AffableApple · 06/05/2025 01:48

Speak to your landlord, the factor, and the fire brigade. Traditionally fire safety provisions take door like this into account. This is really serious.

It's also not fair you signed a contract for an apartment with this as a shared garden facility.

My hubbie and l are the owners. No factoring company, a landlord who rents out her flat, students, organises cleaning of stairwell and roof maintenance and each flat pay their share. We had let out our flat to students for 5 years since purchase. there is a fire 'escape' though that is locked securely and cannot be pushed open. needs a key which we don't have. I have contacted this landlord, and she does not have keys to the back garden or storage cellar, however told me that this selfish neighbour has the key. l have spoken to other flats in the block, all students and none have keys to back garden or fire exit and have no interest. picture of garden shows our half of garden, and as you can see almost all of it is used up with his planting. other pic shows the cellar (on same level as the garden door and fire exit, down 1 flight of steps) which should also be accessible to all, in accordance to the title deed as shown in my last posts.

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beachcitygirl · 07/05/2025 02:04

first things first. Instruct him to remove the lock. If he doesn’t then step 2.

Invest in bolt cutters and Break the lock each and every single time. If he repeatedly locks. Call the fire brigade.
create your own space in the garden, plant flowers or veg as you please. Communal means just that.
he is way way way out of line.
any other issue, factors complaint and lawyers letter.

Turnbull2 · 07/05/2025 02:09

Pawse · 06/05/2025 11:25

Did the estate agent show you around the garden when you went to view?

What a nightmare. I'm raging on your behalf!

no, we used a solicitor to purchase after our personal viewing 5 year ago. title deeds states all owners have access to back green and cellar. please see the quote in my previous post

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TheHerboriste · 07/05/2025 02:53

Blackcordoroys · 05/05/2025 19:41

Would you ACTUALLY? With someone who you might have to share a staircase with for twenty years?

I would. He’d be on notice that HE will ve sharing with US.

Missey85 · 07/05/2025 02:54

Id break the lock 😊 they can't lock up a shared garden

LindorDoubleChoc · 07/05/2025 05:15

I would have thought your first priority would be to get the locked fire escape door sorted!! Before worrying about the garden and cellar. Please.

And perhaps set up a formal management company? the arrangements there seem hopelessly casual unless I am misunderstanding something from your posts.

Turnbull2 · 07/05/2025 05:49

NorthernSpirit · 06/05/2025 13:39

Property law in Scotland is different than in England & this looks like a tenement (which usually doesn’t have a management company as in England).

If another owner in a Scottish tenement is preventing you from accessing a shared garden, there are a few key steps and legal principles to consider:

Check Your Title Deeds (and Feu Disposition)

Look at your title deeds to determine:

If you have a legal right of access to the garden

If the garden is shared or exclusive to specific flats.

If there are burdens or servitudes (legal obligations or rights affecting property use).

Check the Title Sheet of the Other Owner

If you can - check their title as well to see if there is any clear indication of rights or exclusivity being claimed.

Tenement (Scotland) Act 2004

This governs rights and responsibilities in tenement buildings.

Shared areas (including gardens) are presumed to be common property, unless deeds state otherwise.

All owners generally have equal rights to access and use common areas, in a reasonable manner.

If they are still preventing access:

Start with a written request (keep it civil and factual).

As a last resort, you can go to the Sheriff Court for a declarator of your rights and an interdict (injunction) against obstruction.

Good luck 🤞

thanks, as in my last post, I quoted my title deeds and indeed the back green (garden) and cellar (storage room) are communal but he has sole access, l will write my letter and put through his letter box, and will likely add that Sheriff court for a declarator of my rights and an interdict against obstruction, possibly compensation for depriving me use of a communal facility?

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Turnbull2 · 07/05/2025 05:53

GasPanic · 06/05/2025 14:59

I would never work behind a door that could be locked from the outside like that.

l really dont understand why there is that simple bolt toilet lock! the padlock that he added and has sole access to, might be because the block is all students, and maybe his planys and veg were damaged??

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Turnbull2 · 07/05/2025 05:55

Fluffypuppy1 · 06/05/2025 15:36

How did you manage to view the garden and cellar when you were purchasing your flat?

l didnt. flat intended only to be let out, but now we are deciding to live there and realise only one person has access to them, this selfish man

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Cadenza12 · 07/05/2025 05:57

He probably wants sole access so he can claim ownership at some point. I'd cut the lock.

Turnbull2 · 07/05/2025 05:59

ThejoyofNC · 06/05/2025 16:59

If he ignores the letter then contact the police and ask them for assistance. He's breaking the law.

good suggestion , not sure they could do anything about it though.has this worked in past?

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ItsUpToYou · 07/05/2025 06:02

I would contact that fire brigade. It’s a safety issue (as well as an arsehole one!)

FortyElephants · 07/05/2025 06:12

So you've had tenants in for 5 years and none of them ever mentioned having no access to the garden? You never did an inspection and noticed the locks? Especially on the fire escape? That was a dereliction of your duty as a landlord but it's done now - he clearly got used to having no neighbours who would stake a claim on the garden and that needs to change. If he doesn't provide you access by the date you state and also take steps to remove his plants and anything else he's put on your half you'll need a solicitors letter. Is the garden divided in the deeds or is it just all generally shared?

Fluffypuppy1 · 07/05/2025 06:24

Cadenza12 · 07/05/2025 05:57

He probably wants sole access so he can claim ownership at some point. I'd cut the lock.

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This.

If he’s had sole use for around 20 years, he may be able to claim adverse possession.

Thepossibility · 07/05/2025 07:00

I would've cut the lock by now. He obviously intends to ignore you until you give up. I highly doubt he'll respond to a letter if he ignores someone speaking to him face to face. You paid for access to the garden, I wouldn't be begging some CF to share.

Daffodil91 · 07/05/2025 07:15

FortyElephants · 07/05/2025 06:12

So you've had tenants in for 5 years and none of them ever mentioned having no access to the garden? You never did an inspection and noticed the locks? Especially on the fire escape? That was a dereliction of your duty as a landlord but it's done now - he clearly got used to having no neighbours who would stake a claim on the garden and that needs to change. If he doesn't provide you access by the date you state and also take steps to remove his plants and anything else he's put on your half you'll need a solicitors letter. Is the garden divided in the deeds or is it just all generally shared?

I agree - this really doesn’t reflect well on you as a landlord. Did none of your tenants ever mention it? Did you rent it to them saying it had garden access?

fashionqueen0123 · 07/05/2025 07:22

Just unscrew the lock and have a locksmith sort the bottom lock for you. I wouldn’t waste anymore time.

SheilaFentiman · 07/05/2025 07:40

Ah, the update makes more sense, he may well have thought that the person asking him about growing vegetables was related to a tenant, rather than the owner

beAsensible1 · 07/05/2025 07:46

It doesn’t matter if students would fuck up the garden. As renters they have a right of use / access. He can’t just use 2000ft shared garden as his personal fucking allotment.

SheilaFentiman · 07/05/2025 07:56

I would add to your letter that you are the owner, moving back in after 5 years,

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 07/05/2025 08:14

I would just unscrew the screws myself personally.

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