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oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 2025-04-09T17:05:18+00:00

I am selling my house, & EPC is new to me. The cert. tells me how to improve from a "C". For c.£17,500, I can expect savings of c.£582 p.a. 30 years payback, + a loss of interest on the capital investment. What is the point of an EPC? Does anyone look at the rating when buying a property?

tonightceilaimgoingtobe · 27/12/2025 15:17

BluTangClan · 27/12/2025 06:13

They're a nonsense. I looked at the epc certificates for our road where all the houses are identical 1970s builds and the epc ratings and suggestions were different for each house.
Last time I checked, you got points for changing your light bulbs.

They will all be different as different measures will have been installed and different surface ateas, end terraces etc.

Periodicnamechanger · 27/12/2025 17:11

tonightceilaimgoingtobe · 27/12/2025 15:16

So ask them to redo?

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It doesn’t work like that. If insulation in lofts isn't visible, the assessor uses software defaults. He didn’t bring a step ladder to access the hatch. At the time a D was fine for rentals and as there was no indication as to how EPCs will change.

If a Band C is required for all tenancies by 2030, who will be responsible for non adherence if the tenants refuse to move out so the measures can be implemented?

cityanalyst678 · 27/12/2025 17:14

nikkd · 24/12/2025 10:17

yes, buyers definitely look. I am looking right now and I use the rating as a bargaining chip. If a place is a D or E, I mentally knock 10k off the offer price for "future upgrades" even if I never do them.
I use https://homecheckup.co.uk to snoop on houses because it shows the previous certificates too. Sometimes you can see a house was a C ten years ago and is now a D because the standards got stricter. It is just a negotiation tool really.

And then you can knock 10 k off yours for your buyers…..

tonightceilaimgoingtobe · 27/12/2025 23:46

Periodicnamechanger · 27/12/2025 17:11

It doesn’t work like that. If insulation in lofts isn't visible, the assessor uses software defaults. He didn’t bring a step ladder to access the hatch. At the time a D was fine for rentals and as there was no indication as to how EPCs will change.

If a Band C is required for all tenancies by 2030, who will be responsible for non adherence if the tenants refuse to move out so the measures can be implemented?

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Yeah it does work like that.

You said he failed in his professional duty of prodicing a loft, so he needs to come back. If not, you complain to the professional body.

But left insulation doesn't add much.

Periodicnamechanger · 28/12/2025 08:24

I didn’t say he had failed in his professional duty. I said he didn’t lift the hatch and look in the loft. He didn’t make an effort to do so and measures not visible could at the time be classed as Assumed. The RdSAP 10 updates aim to reduce reliance on generic assumptions based on property age. Providing evidence will play a bigger role in the new assessments. The new process needs to be rock solid as people’s homes will be at risk -this will take time to implement.

Although it’s a few years old, Hardy and Glew reported that at least 27% of all EPCs lodged between 2008 and 2016 had a discrepancy which indicates an error has been made.

tonightceilaimgoingtobe · 28/12/2025 10:05

Periodicnamechanger · 28/12/2025 08:24

I didn’t say he had failed in his professional duty. I said he didn’t lift the hatch and look in the loft. He didn’t make an effort to do so and measures not visible could at the time be classed as Assumed. The RdSAP 10 updates aim to reduce reliance on generic assumptions based on property age. Providing evidence will play a bigger role in the new assessments. The new process needs to be rock solid as people’s homes will be at risk -this will take time to implement.

Although it’s a few years old, Hardy and Glew reported that at least 27% of all EPCs lodged between 2008 and 2016 had a discrepancy which indicates an error has been made.

Well he did

DrPrunesqualer · 30/12/2025 16:04

No
For older non standard properties EPCs can’t be calculated
They do do the calcs based on whatever they have that’s a ‘sort of’ similar construction 🤣🤣
so utterly pointless

As we’ve general bought v old properties the EPCs are a joke