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What the heck is this guy doing next door?

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MissMarplesCat · 15/03/2025 19:25

We live in a very small village in a row a 4 cottages. The end terrace is joined to us, and had previously housed an old lady for many years, who then went into care. The house stood empty for a few years then put up for sale. It seems that it was in a bad state of repair (very dated), so went on to auction.
A man purchased it last January and when we got chatting he said he hadn't viewed it prior to bidding and was horrified at the amount of work he'd have to do.
We expected contract work to begin, but he only had one guy, this guy is not a professional in any sense of the word, and to date has damaged our roof (dealt with), fitted all of the windows incorrectly, badly plastered some walls, then hacked it all off and put boards up instead (!), and caused plaster work in our hallway to crumble.

We kept things as friendly as possible, but since last January he has been there most weekdays with his helper chap and they have not stopped smashing at the walls in all of that time. Around 5 skips of bricks have been completed so far, although no interior walls have been removed! Since we can hear a pin drop in there now, it seems like they have removed bricks from the party wall.

As of early Feb this year they are coming 7 days per week. I presume the helper is family or a friend and getting some cash for his trouble.

There's no getting your head around this. The man is very shy and non communicative and looks desperate to get it ready for his small family. What concerns us is that a gas boiler has been delivered from a car (not a plumber van) and left in there. DP overheard him discussing fitting it with an older man who warned hm he wanted nothing to do with it. Make of that what you will.

The guy seems to be struggling financially and very desperate, and whilst friendly, he has already told us a few lies.

Since a few weeks back they have been coming every day even sunday, horrific noise from early until after 5pm. Through last year they even did Easter sunday, and all of the bank holidays, which i thought was illegal for building/construction?
He tried to do Xmas even and Xmas day until DP told he would call the police.

Between October and January this guy was hammering at the front bedroom window frame daily to try to refit it, to no avail. DP works from home so it's sheer hell. It is taking him quadruple the time to do anything because he won't hire professionals. It looks like a bomb site.

Anything we can do here? We have been passed on to planning as council told us building regs no longer have a number. God knows what that means. We've been very tolerant since we knew he was struggling, but since he has already damaged our property and had to repair it, we are getting very concerned and fed up. We doubt anything in there is legit, and he told us when he first bought it that he hadn't had it surveyed, etc.
We think the helper is just a cash in hand guy, with little to no knowledge of what he is doing, and we are very tired of the 7 days a week noise at this point. We have tried to talk, and whilst he is polite, he just lies to us about reducing the days and carries on.

Sorry this is long! Any advice welcome.

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Rollercoaster1920 · 16/03/2025 22:44

You have my sympathy. We had a neighbour not quite as bad, but would build all weekends and evenings. The council said that DIY work did not count as construction noise. Building control visited a couple of times, specially after the boiler exhaust was covered so potentially gassing themselves.

Our bodger seems to be finished now. Obviously we don't talk any more.

JohnofWessex · 16/03/2025 23:04

I would get on to not only Building Control but also the dangerous buildings team as it would appear that a chimney breast has been removed.

Has the 'stack; above the roof also been removed otherwise it isnt supported and could collapse

FortyNineAndABit · 17/03/2025 08:06

Chimney breasts on your side?
If so there should have been a party wall agreement.
Has he supported any remaining chimney correctly?
Where exactly did that vast quantity of bricks come from?
I think you have been very naive to let it run along this far without a serious discussion about damage / potential structural damage to your own home.

JohnofWessex · 17/03/2025 08:34

Thinking about it I suggest getting into contact with Dangerous Buildings at yiour local Council TODAY

They should be over it like a rash

Summerhillsquare · 17/03/2025 09:05

Do you have legal cover in your home insurance? I'd be giving them a call if so.

WorriedMutha · 17/03/2025 09:16

We made a tentative planning enquiry for an in principle indicator when we were thinking of getting a loft extension in a conservation area.
Our neighbour immediately hit us with a letter from their party wall surveyor. They were put out we hadn't discussed it with them. We were only at the early stage of thinking about it but hadn't realised that merely writing to the council would trigger a notification.
The neighbours were elderly and fretful. What I'm saying is you've been far too complacent and you should be making sure your house is still structurally sound. Your neighbour probably hasn't got the funds to make good damage to your property. He could be heading for bankruptcy at the current rate and you will be left with an eyesore next door and expensive repairs to your own home.

FortyNineAndABit · 17/03/2025 09:26

The working hours thing is a red herring. That's suggested "reasonable hours" for a commercial builder, but nothing legal. Stop focussing on noise nuisance and start focussing on possible structural damage. Get onto Building Control TODAY.

SparklyGlitterballs · 17/03/2025 09:42

If he's removed chimney breasts then I'd be concerned he hasn't properly supported any remaining chimney. A friend once moved into a house where this had been done and there was ridiculous wood and bricks in the loft supporting the chimney stack.

Defo get on to that party wall agreement.

Report about the boiler. No-one should be connecting a gas boiler if they're not Corgi registered. If that blows up then your house could be severely damaged/destroyed in any explosion.

Christwosheds · 17/03/2025 09:50

GreyAreas · 16/03/2025 12:11

I would be worried he's not going to be covered by his buildings insurance even if he has any if he's doing the work so badly, which leaves you up shit creek if he causes structural damage to yours. I'd get someone to look at the damage to yours and read him the riot act sharpish, get this stopped.

Agree with this. Is he even insured ? If they’ve been removing large amounts of brick then they’re knocking down walls somewhere- the front of the chimney maybe ? That is incredibly dangerous.

Christwosheds · 17/03/2025 09:50

See that pps have written the same, sorry I hadn’t read every post when I posted. Agree that anything structural with a chimney or a load bearing wall could be catastrophic.

Mnjmnj · 17/03/2025 09:58

I removed my chimney stack from the loft down (in England). I’m mid terrace so I had to have a surveyor come in to do the planning and a steel beam put in for support. Otherwise both houses could collapse.

I would be contacting all and any of the safety links that have been posted above.

JadedSoJaded · 17/03/2025 10:02

I suspect he’s removed the internal brickwork of the cavity walls in a stupidly misguided attempt to increase room size. Contact Building Control & your home insurance urgently. The basic structure of the terraces will be compromised. Not to mention damp proofing, sound proofing etc.

Phoenix1Arisen · 17/03/2025 11:39

Stop being so flipping polite! Raise hell today, while you are still alive to do so.

Tomorrow you could be dead from a gas explosion or under 20 tons of fallen masonry.

JohnofWessex · 17/03/2025 12:09

I would agree with all that has been posted, get on to the Dangerous Buildings team in your local authority NOW

MissMarplesCat · 17/03/2025 12:32

Thank you everyone, very much, all points considered and we are making (many) calls today.

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Doggymummar · 17/03/2025 12:37

This sounds so dangerous I hope it gets sorted

MissMarplesCat · 17/03/2025 12:41

Also, out of curiosity, several of the interior walls were covered up with large sections of plasterboard instead of plaster - is this unusual? This was nailed on and took over 3 months of constant hammering.

Could this be to hide the ruined brickwork?

In the early days when we briefly chatted with him he told us he had not contacted a surveyor at all when purchasing. He admitted he had no idea how to go about dealing with the house.

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Rollercoaster1920 · 17/03/2025 13:19

Plasterboard (dry lining) is normal these days instead of two coat plaster.

martinisforeveryone · 17/03/2025 13:31

@MissMarplesCat

As well as all the Council building and safety reports, I hope you have legal cover with your own household building insurance. I would be contacting them for their advice in order to protect your own property. I think you've been far too lax about this, and over a long period of time, given the activity you've described.

The gas fitting might be a problem in as much as he hasn't done anything yet, it's only the fact that you've overheard a conversation and he has form. Based on that though, his electrics might be a danger that needs addressing right now.

MissMarplesCat · 17/03/2025 17:24

He did use a professional electrician because the guy called here by accident and chatted with us. Who knows what's going on now though.

We have been lax, I admit, mostly due to caring for a dying relative for a good amount of that time, and possibly because neither of us are very well up on these matters, nor have we had such an experience before. I promise we have intellectual have strengths in other areas, lol. Blush

The guy and his family seemed to be struggling and we were likely affected by that, too, we think they are new to the UK, and we thought he might be able to iron stuff out. Obviously this wasn't the wisest attitude to take, I can own that.

As soon as they damaged our roof over xmas, things changed. It was around that time DP was invited in there to chat with him and he saw what had been done to the walls.

Yes we are covered and now in contact. We are on a mission to nip this in the bud asap.

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JohnofWessex · 17/03/2025 17:33

MissMarplesCat · 17/03/2025 17:24

He did use a professional electrician because the guy called here by accident and chatted with us. Who knows what's going on now though.

We have been lax, I admit, mostly due to caring for a dying relative for a good amount of that time, and possibly because neither of us are very well up on these matters, nor have we had such an experience before. I promise we have intellectual have strengths in other areas, lol. Blush

The guy and his family seemed to be struggling and we were likely affected by that, too, we think they are new to the UK, and we thought he might be able to iron stuff out. Obviously this wasn't the wisest attitude to take, I can own that.

As soon as they damaged our roof over xmas, things changed. It was around that time DP was invited in there to chat with him and he saw what had been done to the walls.

Yes we are covered and now in contact. We are on a mission to nip this in the bud asap.

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Next door might be struggling but based on what you are saying they could damage or destroy your home and potentially injure or even kill you and your partner in the process.

Your actions need to reflect that

Take no prisoners

martinisforeveryone · 17/03/2025 19:27

@MissMarplesCat you don't owe anyone here an explanation, I just wanted you to feel empowered to take some positive action to protect your home and to ensure next door's site is safe. Sounds like you're now on the case.

Sometimes we just need a bit of a push and some reassurance we're doing the right thing and not being OTT.

BlueMongoose · 18/03/2025 15:43

Rollercoaster1920 · 17/03/2025 13:19

Plasterboard (dry lining) is normal these days instead of two coat plaster.

Yes, but you don't nail it on, as they say was done. On an older house, you use dot and dab if you're not bothered, and batten out properly with timber if you are. Really old houses (like mine) may need plastering properly with lime, if you don't want damp.

MissMarplesCat · 18/03/2025 22:59

The plasterboard is haphazard, it seems it depended upon whther his current guy could plaster.

We also found out today from a back-facing neighbour that he has removed a downstairs support wall, the one that lined the stairway? Apologies but I am not well versed in building speak.

It appears to be being held up by metal brackets. The stairs are basically 'floating'.

What matters is that he has not applied for planing for any of this.

Since DP said he was contacting dangerous buildings, he has not been working on it for 3 days, which is very unusual, but he has turned up at least 6 times per day for 2 minutes. DP thinks he is expecting a letter - and yes, that letter is due!

We have moved forward and the house is to be inspected this coming week. We are also in talks with a solicitor.

Thank you again, some of the harsher points woke us up!

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MissMarplesCat · 18/03/2025 23:00

Btw, this house was build in the 1920's as a worker's row. It was 2 up 2 down but with backs built on since the 60's.

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