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How can I find out who owns this wall?

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thiswaypleasethankyou · 20/01/2025 20:51

Considering buying a house that has a wall in front of it. House is 1960s, wall looks considerably older and continues past the house for quite some way and over a bridge. It's about a foot thick at least and made of old stones, a bit like you'd see on a railway bridge. There is a gap in the wall (looks like it was cut in when the house was built or maybe later) to get into the parking area in front of the house but it isn't very wide and awkward to get in and out of. Had gates at one time but they've been taken off. No parking on the road, all double yellows.

If we could take another 2 ft off the wall to widen the entrance it would be fine but as it is it'd be a nightmare getting in and out several times a day. DH is confident we could just chop a bit off the wall but I'm concerned it doesn't actually belong to the house, and the title deed isn't helpful it just has a line along the boundary but not clear if its in front of or behind the wall.

Has anyone had a similar situation and can offer advice please?

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Fridgemanageress · 20/01/2025 20:57

I’m with your husband on this one. Chop abit off, or get a mate with a big robust vehicle with bull bar to knock the wall down “accidentally” and then your just rebuilding it!

Copernicus321 · 20/01/2025 21:08

Is the land registered? Does the wall form part of a boundary between registered properties? Is there a T mark on the plan or does the title deeds describe the boundary? If the title deeds describes the boundary wall, what are the words used to describe the boundary? Is the property on an estate, are there other similar walls for other properties and do their title plans include T marks? Need more information.

thiswaypleasethankyou · 20/01/2025 21:18

The land is registered, boundary drawn clearly in red on the plan but the wall itself isnt drawn inside or outside.. No T marks, no description on the deed of the plot/boundaries etc. It's on a main road with a terrace of older houses next to it on one side and nothing for ages the other side until you hit a doctors surgery (where the wall stops and a newer wall starts after the driveway to the surgery). From what I can figure out the land was sold to someone in the 60s likely by the farm behind it, and then built on. There's only been one sale of the property since it was built (which was in 2000), and it's a probate sale now so no owner to ask.

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Fridgemanageress · 20/01/2025 21:23

thiswaypleasethankyou · 20/01/2025 21:18

The land is registered, boundary drawn clearly in red on the plan but the wall itself isnt drawn inside or outside.. No T marks, no description on the deed of the plot/boundaries etc. It's on a main road with a terrace of older houses next to it on one side and nothing for ages the other side until you hit a doctors surgery (where the wall stops and a newer wall starts after the driveway to the surgery). From what I can figure out the land was sold to someone in the 60s likely by the farm behind it, and then built on. There's only been one sale of the property since it was built (which was in 2000), and it's a probate sale now so no owner to ask.

I didn’t say hit the doctors, I said hit the wall 🤣

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 20/01/2025 21:24

I'd enlarge the opening and make each end neat with proper facing (not just rough hewn).
If anyone raises it as an issue you could say (I wouldn't, because I don't tell lies) that you think a skip lorry damaged whilst maneuvering and you just repaired it to the the best of your ability.

Important Note: When I put...
"I'd enlarge the opening..."
I wasn't actually offering to do the work.

parietal · 20/01/2025 22:00

is the house in a conversation area or anywhere where the wall might be considered a heritage feature and you'd get in serious trouble for damaging it?

if not, you can probably assume it is yours to adjust.

WhatMe123 · 20/01/2025 22:36

Check its leasehold as often leaseholds stipulate you can't touch or alter the wall

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