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Uplift clause

21 replies

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 13:50

Hi, Desperately looking for peace if mind!
We bought our current home in 2004 with Detailed PP already granted. Planning permission was for an extention and separate garaging. We did the work.
In the deeds there is an uplift clause with a complicated calculation for the uplift.
I believe there is a 20yr limit on the uplift which would expire Dec 2025 but I'm not convinced there will something hidden.
My solicitor wants £1000 to advise me on this (plus there us a second charge on the property). I cannot afford £1000 but I yo know where I stand should I need or decide to sell!
Any advice? Pro bono companies out there? Please help as I feel quite desperate.
Thankyou!

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2024onwardsandup · 25/11/2024 13:52

Why would someone provide you with specialist advice for free?

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 13:55

Well, there might be people out there who have personal experience of such matters. I'm only reaching out!

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Rollercoaster1920 · 25/11/2024 14:12

Why would you do the work without working out the uplift liability first?

You need proper legal advice because it will depend on what the uplift clause and any definitions in the contract of sale say.

Aligirlbear · 25/11/2024 14:19

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 13:50

Hi, Desperately looking for peace if mind!
We bought our current home in 2004 with Detailed PP already granted. Planning permission was for an extention and separate garaging. We did the work.
In the deeds there is an uplift clause with a complicated calculation for the uplift.
I believe there is a 20yr limit on the uplift which would expire Dec 2025 but I'm not convinced there will something hidden.
My solicitor wants £1000 to advise me on this (plus there us a second charge on the property). I cannot afford £1000 but I yo know where I stand should I need or decide to sell!
Any advice? Pro bono companies out there? Please help as I feel quite desperate.
Thankyou!

No one on MN can advise you - it all depends on the exact wording of the uplift clause ( they vary) - and you would rely on advice from her at your peril. You need specific legal advice based on the wording to ensure you are compliant and not something you should try and do for free / cheap - it could end up costing you far more.

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 14:42

Thanks for your reply.
I'm not asking for a legal opinion, more a plain English deciphering of legalese!
I did read another similar post where the respondent sounded like a knowledgeable person.
I'm only asking for help from similar situations....Eg, where do people go for legal advice when that can't afford it? (CA wont help)

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AnotherDelphinium · 25/11/2024 14:45

Could you message the person who’s due to benefit from the uplift clause and ask for their understanding of it?

DogInATent · 25/11/2024 14:54

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 14:42

Thanks for your reply.
I'm not asking for a legal opinion, more a plain English deciphering of legalese!
I did read another similar post where the respondent sounded like a knowledgeable person.
I'm only asking for help from similar situations....Eg, where do people go for legal advice when that can't afford it? (CA wont help)

Presumably you did the extension several years ago, so there's no immediate urgency - unless you're coming to sell. You must have made some effort to understand the implications when you decided to purchase and then go ahead with the building work - at least to the point you knew if the potential liability was going to be hundreds, thousands, or tens of thousands.

Have you got household legal expenses cover on your home insurance? or via your bank (or breakdown insurance - I think RAC now includes home legal in their breakdown package)?

MinnieMountain · 25/11/2024 15:04

I deal with uplift (overage) clauses at work OP. Even with the document in front of me, it’s not the sort of thing I can summarise to clients in 1 paragraph. There’s so many sub-clauses and variables.

Have you got the solicitor’s report on it from when you bought your house OP? If not, you’ll have to pay the £1,000.

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 16:27

TBH, my late husband dealt with the legal side and now he's gone I'm trying to get my ducks in a row and understand it all...and not doing very well.
There was alot of accronomy between the solicitors, ours was unwell and I fear he might have missed something crucial in the conveyancing. The company that did the remortgage conveyancing for the second charge doesn't keep records beyond 7 years.
Ive got the paperwork but I'm just not very clever.
Thanks for your input

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Flubadubba · 25/11/2024 16:32

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 14:42

Thanks for your reply.
I'm not asking for a legal opinion, more a plain English deciphering of legalese!
I did read another similar post where the respondent sounded like a knowledgeable person.
I'm only asking for help from similar situations....Eg, where do people go for legal advice when that can't afford it? (CA wont help)

Try a University legal clinic. Many run them for free/low cost in order to give students real-world experience.

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 16:34

MinnieMountain · 25/11/2024 15:04

I deal with uplift (overage) clauses at work OP. Even with the document in front of me, it’s not the sort of thing I can summarise to clients in 1 paragraph. There’s so many sub-clauses and variables.

Have you got the solicitor’s report on it from when you bought your house OP? If not, you’ll have to pay the £1,000.

Whats OP?
Minnimountain....Does a 20yr time limit expire? Can it be extended by the beneficiaries? (I have no plans to sell before the 20 yrs is up which is Dec 2025)
I will check if I have legal on my house insurance.

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HellsBalls · 25/11/2024 16:44

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 16:34

Whats OP?
Minnimountain....Does a 20yr time limit expire? Can it be extended by the beneficiaries? (I have no plans to sell before the 20 yrs is up which is Dec 2025)
I will check if I have legal on my house insurance.

OP = Original Poster (you).
Obviously a 20 year time limit will expire, however what does it say in the contract?

MinnieMountain · 25/11/2024 16:53

I’m not giving you any more specific advice OP. It’s more than my practicing certificate is worth.

What does the report say? It should be in relatively plain English.

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 16:55

Thankyou!
I have to pickup the file from the solicitors so I will try and pullout that 20yr clause and relay it.

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MinnieMountain · 25/11/2024 17:00

I said I’m NOT giving specific advice. I’m saying read the report, then pay someone if you don’t understand.

Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 17:01

AnotherDelphinium · 25/11/2024 14:45

Could you message the person who’s due to benefit from the uplift clause and ask for their understanding of it?

Hi, I don't have a contact for the beneficiaries and the person who put the uplift clause died years ago. I did contact there solicitor he said there woukd be a conflict of intetest to advise me.

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Bewildered9999 · 25/11/2024 22:07

Miniemountain.....I don't believe I have asked you for specific advice. I thought it was a simple conversation as you had had previously. I have no desire for you to risk anything on this! I will remove the thread if possible and that will be the end of it. Again I was simply reaching out to the network for direction and support!

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MinnieMountain · 27/11/2024 19:07

It wasn’t the end of it though, was it OP? You advance searched me and sent me a message having a go at me 🙄

Haggia · 27/11/2024 19:22

MinnieMountain · 27/11/2024 19:07

It wasn’t the end of it though, was it OP? You advance searched me and sent me a message having a go at me 🙄

Whaaaaat? Seriously, people these days are just…

DillyDallyingAllDay · 27/11/2024 19:33

Copy and paste the info into chat gpt and ask it to summarise it for you in plain English. It's not going to be perfect but it will give you the gist of it as somewhere to start

Overthebow · 27/11/2024 19:45

MinnieMountain · 27/11/2024 19:07

It wasn’t the end of it though, was it OP? You advance searched me and sent me a message having a go at me 🙄

Oh that’s not on at all, awful behaviour.

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