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BunnyWilliams · 17/10/2024 09:38

This article has just popped up on my notifications: https://www.gbnews.com/money/mortgage-storm-budget-painful-interest-rates

What do you think? Scaremongering?

I worry that even if news like this inflated, it's enough to put off FTBs which will slow down the market even more (if that's even possible!).

Mortgage storm looms as major lenders increase interest rates ahead of Budget

Falls in mortgage rates could come to an abrupt halt, according to brokers

https://www.gbnews.com/money/mortgage-storm-budget-painful-interest-rates

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lljkk · 17/10/2024 09:49

General forecast is for falls before end of 2024.
Anyway, impacts depend on affordability & I think most people are on fixed.
I'm on tracker coz I can afford small or big rises but expect falls and I wanted option to overpay.

What do you think of this news?
Redshoeblueshoe · 17/10/2024 09:52

The market is fine round here - northwest

Twiglets1 · 17/10/2024 09:53

I think as the article says that some Lenders are raising their fixed rate mortgages due to the uncertainty over the upcoming budget.

But I also think that the Bank of England will reduce the base rate again at their next meeting on 7th November - probably by 0.25% - & that will lead some lenders to reduce their rates. And that rates will be reduced further at subsequent Bank of England meetings.

It must be rather unsettling to be someone needing to arrange a mortgage at the moment with all the speculation. Doesn’t help people trying to sell their properties unfortunately.

GasPanic · 17/10/2024 10:25

Twiglets1 · 17/10/2024 09:53

I think as the article says that some Lenders are raising their fixed rate mortgages due to the uncertainty over the upcoming budget.

But I also think that the Bank of England will reduce the base rate again at their next meeting on 7th November - probably by 0.25% - & that will lead some lenders to reduce their rates. And that rates will be reduced further at subsequent Bank of England meetings.

It must be rather unsettling to be someone needing to arrange a mortgage at the moment with all the speculation. Doesn’t help people trying to sell their properties unfortunately.

The BOE no longer determines the price we pay for mortgages.

Some time ago we made the decision to inflate our housing market with a sea of overseas money. The availability/cost of that money is what determines mortgage rates.

All the time international investors that provide that money are asking questions like, Why should we lend money for UK mortgages at X%, when the US government will pay us Y% to hold a 10 year bond (a kind of benchmark for risk) ?

The BOE spends most of it's time setting the rate to play catchup with the markets who determine the price of money.

The forthcoming budget more than anything else will determine what cost the world demands in order to lend us money. BOE rates are a sideshow.

rainingsnoring · 17/10/2024 10:26

It's GB news trying to stir trouble for Labour as usual.
Yes, mortgage rates have risen a bit but that is because bond yields have risen. This has also happened in the US since their base rate cuts so is definitely not just a UK thing.
UK yields did fall back a bit yesterday with the low CPI figures though.

Overall, as I've said several times on here, I think we are approaching a worldwide recession and that these yields will fall in the short term (12 months or so). That won't make it easier for FTB or other buyers to buy houses though!

rainingsnoring · 17/10/2024 10:29

@GasPanic is right- the central banks follow the markets.

The market may or may not react badly to Reeves's budget and it may, at some later stage, realise that the UK is far too indebted with no prospect of growth to be a good prospect financially.

ByMerryKoala · 17/10/2024 10:33

I've read that we might see a reduction in the base rate in both November and December now, down to the drop in inflation - which was more than expected due to the cost of petrol. So that's a win for anyone on a tracker.

But fixed mortgages need to take a long term view and there's clearly a lot of change coming our way - who the hell knows what's coming on October 30th.

First time buyers probably shouldn't be hopping on the property ladder if an additional 1 percent throws their figures into chaos anyway.

Twiglets1 · 17/10/2024 10:35

I read the same thing @ByMerryKoala

I read the markets consider it increasingly likely - time will tell.

FelixtheAardvark · 17/10/2024 12:40

It's from GBNews.

Therefore I think it's bullshit.

ByMerryKoala · 17/10/2024 12:49

You think that banks aren't pulling their lowest mortgages from the market - and you think that because it's being reported in gbnews?

I can't get past the paywall anyway but it's not a secret.

Twiglets1 · 17/10/2024 14:46

FelixtheAardvark · 17/10/2024 12:40

It's from GBNews.

Therefore I think it's bullshit.

It’s not just reported in GB news though.

GasPanic · 17/10/2024 15:05

Mortgages are all about affordability.

It's no good if a fiscally prudent budget comes in that surpresses rates that lead to £100 a month saving on your mortgage, if that budget is achieved by £200 worth of tax rises.

nearlylovemyusername · 17/10/2024 15:15

Bank's a hedging their risks. The rates will fall for sure, but with this asset prices inflation is likely to follow and yes, I also believe global recession is coming.

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