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Fixtures and fittings

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Applesandbananaz · 23/09/2024 12:52

We are purchasing a house and our vendors have compiled a list of chattels, and would like us to offer a price for them.
On the list are things like the integrated cooker, fitted shelving, wood burner, carpets etc.

Should we wait to see a fixtures and fittings list before we negotiate any extras?

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good96 · 23/09/2024 13:07

Are the vendors actually serious? They might as well just include them with the house sale especially as they are integrated and most likely bespoke and also used!! I can understand if it was a brand new AFF but seriously?!

jamtarty · 23/09/2024 13:22

WTF? I’d expect all that to be included unless they’re ripping the carpets out because they’re knackered or something!

blobby10 · 23/09/2024 13:24

If those items were included in the photos and it wasn't mentioned in the particulars or at the viewing that they were not included in the sale then its reasonable for you to assume they are included in the price of the house!! I certainly wouldn't expect to pay for fitted items.

Ihateslugs · 23/09/2024 13:33

Yes, wait until your solicitor send you the paperwork, it is likely that the sellers will have more understanding by then what is normally included in the price - hopefully their solicitor will have told them that integrated appliances, carpets, fitted furniture etc are not extras.

Twiglets1 · 23/09/2024 13:34

I would expect all those things to be included in the sale with the possible exception of the wood burner. I have no idea if people normally leave them behind or not as never owned one.

I would phone the EA about it and get them to explain to the seller that it would not be appropriate for them to remove an integrated cooker or rip up carpets.

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Applesandbananaz · 23/09/2024 13:42

The estate agent has said that we are right to assume that they will be left and that in 20 years, no one has ever taken the wood burner with them. But they are on the list.. As is a greenhouse that was photographed on the particulars but isn't included. I have contacted our lawyer to discuss, I just wondered what other people's experiences have been

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Twiglets1 · 23/09/2024 13:50

Applesandbananaz · 23/09/2024 13:42

The estate agent has said that we are right to assume that they will be left and that in 20 years, no one has ever taken the wood burner with them. But they are on the list.. As is a greenhouse that was photographed on the particulars but isn't included. I have contacted our lawyer to discuss, I just wondered what other people's experiences have been

Carpets have always been left, curtains are normally left, integrated cookers always are left. They sound clueless especially with the new info about the greenhouse.

Severatwists · 23/09/2024 13:59

We had this, vendors tried to charge us £1k for a rotten playhouse and greenhouse, a cooker and a pond full of fish! We said no to them all and asked for them to be removed before we exchanged, funnily enough they decided to leave them all free of charge! We did insist that the fish were removed and the pond was drained as we had small children
They sound cheeky, the wood burning stove would need removing by a specialist and the chimney capping off and plaster making good so I think they are just trying it on and would decline all the items.

Gotosleep91 · 23/09/2024 14:38

We had this as well - for bespoke fitted stuff they wouldn't be able to reuse anyway. It's just greed as far as I'm concerned.

We called their bluff and said no. The stuff stayed. I'd do the same in your situation

IDareSay · 23/09/2024 14:45

It's a while since I last moved but my solicitor told me that anything that didn't fall out if you (metaphorically) turned the house upside down and shook it should be included in the price. So fitted kitchens, integrated appliances, fitted wardrobes, built in shelving etc. Basically anything not freestanding.

SlipperyLizard · 23/09/2024 14:49

Our vendor offered to sell us carpets, wood burner and some coal (unspecified amount which we hadn’t seen). We declined on all counts so they removed them, which was quite inconvenient in the case of the carpets but the house was disgusting so we’d have got rid of them anyway.

The wood burner had no installation certificate and wouldn’t have got one as two of its legs were perched on the cheap laminate floor!

TheRoseTurtle · 23/09/2024 14:53

They might be foreign - in some countries it's normal for all the appliances etc to be removed and just the empty shell of the house to be sold.

Treeseverywhere · 23/09/2024 17:16

Just tell them your offer was inclusive of the fitted goods and if they want to charge separately for them you will reduce your offer accordingly.

This would actually work out better for you because you would pay slightly less stamp duty (it is only charged on the cost of the house itself, not fixtures and fittings).

What a silly game they're playing!

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