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Neighbours windows

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Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 13:49

First time poster and I'm unsure I have posted this is the right place. I have scoured the internet to see if I can find any information about this and am also waiting for the local authority to respond to my query. However, I thought I would post here to find out if anyone else has had a similar problem.

My neighbours property, to the rear of me is built right up to the property boundary. They have several windows that face us. The ground floor windows are frosted and although its not ideal at least they cannot see into our garden. The top floor window is not frosted. This provides them with a view of our entire garden and they can see into our kitchen, two bathrooms and a bedroom. In Winter this will be worse as when we turn the lights on we will be even more visible. We can close the shutters in our bathrooms and bedroom however the kitchen has French doors which do not have shutters. In this instance I do not feel I should be trying to make my kitchen private as I enjoy the light (the kitchen faces North so any light is appreciated).

The neighbours have just moved in. Our old neighbours kept the curtains closed all the time in the top floor room. The also hung an extra piece of fabric at the window for additional privacy. It didn't look good from our side but at least we could enjoy our garden in the warmer months.

Please bear in mind that the only view from the neighbours top window is of our garden and also into our house. They cannot see beyond our house as our house is taller.

The new neighbour introduced themself by opening their ground floor window and began chatting to me whilst I was in my garden. I found this a little off and hope they don't think this is acceptable. However, perhaps this behaviour is a one off so I will let it slide. I took this opportunity to mention the top floor window and and was met with the (sadly) expected unfriendliness. I did explain that perhaps they were not aware of how intrusive the unfrosted window is for us. I asked if they were going to do something about but go no response.

The next morning, early, I noticed the neighbour walking in our road and could see they were trying to determine which house was ours. I'm not sure what this means but perhaps they were looking for our door number.

The curtains in the neighbours top window are open all the time. I can see into there property If I am at my window looking at my garden.

Do I have any right to ask for the top window to be frosted? Even just using that sticky back frosting you can stick on windows would suffice and is a good cheap option for the neighbour. As mention their property is built up to the boundary - they cannot even open their ground floor windows fully without coming onto our property.

Thanks for taking the time to read this - looking forward to getting some honest feedback.

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LIZS · 03/09/2024 14:03

If the house has been like that for a while I doubt there is much you can do.

Lweji · 03/09/2024 14:10

It seems odd to me that building regulations allowed those windows, unless it's a very old house.
Still, I'd ask the Council about your rights.

Worst case, install some blinds to protect your privacy, and perhaps a well placed tree.

You could also start going around stark naked. 😈 Maybe they'll find a sudden need for curtains. 😁

Scampuss · 03/09/2024 14:17

If you don't want them looking in you'll need to plant tall stuff and add your own window covering/frosting! I've used window film from Brume for my front windows:

www.brume.co.uk/

Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 14:17

Lweji - 😂I think they might move house if they saw me naked dancing in the garden!!

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Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 14:19

Scampuss - I have thought about that but a) I didn't want to block their light and b) Its going to take a very very tall tree so may take years to reach the height needed.

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Sparklfairy · 03/09/2024 14:20

You keep mentioning things they should do but it's you that seems to have the problem, not them. You also showed your hand too early because now they won't do a thing put of principle.

You can get privacy film that doesn't block light. I have it and can see out, light comes in but it looks black/dark grey from the outside and you can't see in.

Dora33 · 03/09/2024 14:20

I would plant tall trees, maybe bamboo at the back of your garden for privacy.
I'm very surprised that the neighbours windows are able to open into your garden. Surely that shouldn't have been allowed in the planning unless the house is very old.
We were very overlooked closely by another house and planted bamboo.

OttersAreMySpiritAnimal · 03/09/2024 14:23

Check the original plans and decision from the planning dept at the council to see if those windows should've been frosted. If not, then you've no right to ask so I'd consider what you can do to your own property to mitigate it.
Trees in the garden, strategically placed, one way window film, blinds etc. I like Venetian blinds as you can tilt to let in light but block out a direct view inside.

Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 14:23

Thanks Sparklfairy. I will look into that film for our kitchen doors. Im just sad about the garden as the easy fix is for them to frost their window. I know they have a right to a view but Im sure if the view is only of our garden they are not going to want to look at it.

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Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 14:24

Thanks Dora33. Yes both houses are very old. Theirs is possibly older. Well over 120 years.

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CrotchetyQuaver · 03/09/2024 14:24

I very much doubt there's anything the local authority can do to help you.

Rethink your own privacy with curtains/voiles and shutters so that they can't see in to your house.

Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 14:26

The house is old but the windows were added much later. Its a very peculiar set up.

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OttersAreMySpiritAnimal · 03/09/2024 14:27

Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 14:19

Scampuss - I have thought about that but a) I didn't want to block their light and b) Its going to take a very very tall tree so may take years to reach the height needed.

A tree closer to your house won't have to be so tall and won't affect their light. Depends on how big your garden is if that's practical though.

Autumnismyfavouritetimeofyear · 03/09/2024 14:28

The next morning, early, I noticed the neighbour walking in our road and could see they were trying to determine which house was ours. I'm not sure what this means but perhaps they were looking for our door number.

No, you dont know that, this is in your head.

Do I have any right to ask for the top window to be frosted?

No. You need to get over it. Unless you can afford a house in the middle of nowhere, most people are overlooked to some extent and have to live with it.

Im just sad about the garden as the easy fix is for them to frost their window. I know they have a right to a view but Im sure if the view is only of our garden they are not going to want to look at it.

Easy fix for you! But the world does not revolve around what is best for you - they have a right to do what they like in their house.

circular1985 · 03/09/2024 14:31

Sounds like a weird set up. I wouldn't want my bedroom/ upstairs curtains constantly closed. I might get some nets or blinds though. It's up to them how they want to proceed.

Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 14:31

Ah thanks Sparklfairy -that looks really good.

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Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 14:35

Yes I understand its the easy fix for me if they frost the glass. If I were in their shoes I would have frosted the window as its not a typical over looking situation. Living in London we are all over looked but this is very direct and feels invasive. But I hear your point and maybe its better for me to not pursuit this but just do what I can at my side.

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Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 14:37

circular1985 - its a hallway so not a used room. But can see it would still be annoying to have the curtains closed all the time. But if they used frosting they would still have the light.

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heldinadream · 03/09/2024 14:49

Put up a strategically placed garden sail at an angle to block their sight lines @Ondisplay247

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0CS2YS7JC/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?smid=A2BHXOZQI1ZQZB&psc=1

MoveItOnUp · 03/09/2024 14:59

If it's such an issue then why did you buy the buyer?

CraftyNavySeal · 03/09/2024 14:59

We can close the shutters in our bathrooms and bedroom however the kitchen has French doors which do not have shutters. In this instance I do not feel I should be trying to make my kitchen private as I enjoy the light (the kitchen faces North so any light is appreciated).

So you don’t want to frost the windows in your house so they should frost theirs? You should just frost your own kitchen window if it bothers you.

As fo the garden, most gardens in London are overlooked. My own garden is overlooked by upstairs and about 5 other flats. I can’t demand they all keep their curtains closed.

MoveItOnUp · 03/09/2024 15:09

MoveItOnUp · 03/09/2024 14:59

If it's such an issue then why did you buy the buyer?

Oops ...

That should have said "why did you buy the house"?

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Ondisplay247 · 03/09/2024 15:20

The previous owner of our house had loads of trees and cleverly placed outbuildings. When we we moved in the owners of the house to the rear complained to us that their house was dark. We felt sorry for them and removed all the trees and buildings and they agreed to keep their curtains closed. Actually originally they said they would frost the glass but in the end they just kept their curtains closed. It seemed to work for both parties. I know we are allowed to plant trees and block their light as this has been the case for a very long time before we moved in. However this is not really something I want to do. As someone who enjoys the light in my house I would not want to prevent it in someone else's house. There is very little I can do for privacy of the garden but I will try some screening on the kitchen doors. Thank you everyone for your helpful suggestions. x

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