Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Property/DIY

Join our Property forum for renovation, DIY, and house selling advice.

Decision paralysis- move or extend?! HELP!!

5 replies

lizwells2020 · 31/07/2024 07:55

Hoping some of the wise mumsnet folk can talk some sense into me…apologies for the length of post…

Currently living in a 3 bed Victorian townhouse in London - moved only 3 years ago but life has changed a lot since the move as we now have a very rambunctious toddler!

When we moved we thought the house would need minor cosmetic work only- a lick of paint here and there- it was also our first purchase. We ended up doing a lot of cosmetic stuff to make it lovely- all new fancy looking (although second hand) radiators, lots of replastering and replacing some dodgy ceilings, built in wardrobes and shelving, all new lights and shutters, new carpets, it worked out to an eye watering sum. We love the house but there are some ‘issues’

The problem is 1) the garden is a
small courtyard garden with a crumbling deck at the back and lots of the sides taken up by massive (overgrown) flower beds- meaning there’s not much usable space for DS to run around- and he is a BUSY kid.
2) the kitchen is a bit of a mess- the downstairs layout is weird meaning that the downstairs loo takes up loads of the kitchen. It’s fine but it doesn’t work for entertaining and with a toddler it would be so nice to feel comfortable having people over more as we are so tied to the house in the evenings.
3) it’s never going to be a ‘big’ house- it’s one of the smallest on the road and we wouldn’t have room for a utility etc
4) apparently this is normal for London but we have RATS. Only under the floorboards in the kitchen and dining room but we have had 3 worst control companies round and they all say it’s just Victorian foundations and not much you can do about it (eyeroll)

Important to say we ADORE the location- it’s just perfect- lovely huge green space at the end of the road and incredible neighbours who we are really close with and have kids the same age. Close to station and shops in a blissful quiet enclave

My quandary is

  1. Do we do a side return and remodel the kitchen so we have that usable living space and then landscape the garden. It will still be a small garden but the space could me much more child friendly. The issue with this is the quotes we have got have been CRAZY. Talking over 150 to just do a 1x7 metre side return. Would have to wait to do the garden as this would be all our money gone! Life is very stressful- both work full time and other stresses going on so the idea of taking on a big project and living in a building site feels terrifying. Let alone unforeseen costs…however with this option we can rip up all the floors and basically rat proof it I think.

2)Do we move- we would stay in the immediate area and things don’t come on often but they do sometimes- just down the road the houses are much bigger and this could suit us better if we (hopefully) have another DC and then we have two nutters running around. Some houses round here have HUGE gardens too. With this option we would need to spend at least another 200k on the value of ours (maybe 250k) and then we would have stamp duty and fees on top. It would mean remortgaging at a time when we are already stretched paying insane nursery bills BUT this could then be the home for the forseeable future ( amazing primary schools but secondaries not so much so may have to move for that). My concern with this option is we just wouldn’t have any money left to make it ‘ours’ - all the touches we did on our current house we wouldn’t have the dosh to do.

  1. Do we just landscape the garden so DS has that space. It’s great having the green space at the end of the road but sometimes you want to get on with the washing or whatever and have him playing somewhere safe. My concern with this option is that everyone says don’t ever do your garden before building work because it will get wrecked - so would be committing to not really doing that and also is it a waste of money in that it won’t make a huge difference and then we wouldn’t have enough to renovate or move potentially.

I have honestly been agonising over this for 80% of my waking hours for the last 6-8 months… hoping someone clever can help!

TYSM

OP posts:
Heronwatcher · 31/07/2024 08:11

On the basis of what you’ve said, I suspect you may need to move for secondary so I would do the kitchen and garden (I bet that’s where the rats are) and then rethink in a few years. Look around for decent quotes but the side return is likely to be expensive, it’s a big structural job. The garden try to do as much as you can of the clearing out and just get someone in to lay a new patio and beds- honestly everything else is pretty simple. Plus getting the side return done will probably end up destroying most of it anyway! Try to get enough space for a small trampoline or something and your kids will be sorted.

I’d bet my eye you’ll make the money back in a few years and more, then can make a decision about whether to move locally (and potentially fork out for tuition or private schools) or move out, depending on how many kids you have by then/ work etc.

Oh and consider getting a lovely cat! We’ve always had one and never had any difficulties with mice/ rats, despite being in London for 20 plus years!

MysteryofNils · 31/07/2024 08:19

Move

The extension will cost more than you think.

You can live with a less than ideal house if you have the space and the garden and do it up as you get the money

Flubadubba · 31/07/2024 08:36

How many quotes did you get the for side return? Even for London, that is insanely high.

lizwells2020 · 31/07/2024 08:40

Flubadubba · 31/07/2024 08:36

How many quotes did you get the for side return? Even for London, that is insanely high.

Quite a few! One said 160 just for first fix!! They can’t do too accurate quotes without the architectural drawings which will cost £4k so hesitant to spend that without knowing I definitely want to go ahead…

OP posts:
mondaytosunday · 31/07/2024 09:34

Move. £250 extra (plus stamp duty) if you can swing it do it. Even if you put in the side extension it will not give you more bedroom space and those are extortionate quotes (I live in SW London and my neighbours just had their loft converted with en suite for that, adding much more value).
Tidy up the garden before selling though - cut back the beds and put a few cheerful annuals in. If too much for you hire muscle for a couple days.
If you don't have the money to move get more quotes in. If you know what you want a structural engineer might provide drawings for your builder to quote from. You'd need those calculations anyway.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread