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Low lights on a garden wall (that doesn't belong to me)

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ChillinwiththeVillains · 18/05/2024 21:00

We are refurbing our kitchen, usual bifolds etc.. I'd like to light our garden for darker evenings for an hour or two and be able to switch off from inside (so mains, not solar).
We aren't digging up our patio- it's ugly but functional.
We have beautiful wall- assume Edwardian like the house, on one side which I think is neighbours' not ours. It does already have a cable running about 15cm from the floor- I think this was for the hot tub previous owners installed.
I'd love to light the wall as per photo. Any idea what I should use and if I should run it along the base or the cable to achieve this. LED strip? Thank you

Low lights on a garden wall (that doesn't belong to me)
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Walkden · 19/05/2024 04:36

Those lights look like spot lights not led, OP.

You can get 240v or 12v garden spike lights for this kind of lighting.

To use 12v lights you can use a transformer. The benefit of this is that the wiring is much safer and less likely to trip the house electrics If say water gets into a light or the cable is damaged but voltage will drop on long runs of cable...

If you want to use 230v you can have longer runs of cable etc but may need to think about an electrician use outdoor or armoured cable etc

ChillinwiththeVillains · 19/05/2024 06:56

That is really helpful thank you and I didn't realise they wouldn't be LED. It's flush against patio so will have to secure down but we'll have an electrician on site for the kitchen and he will sort garden lights. I just need to be able to explain what we need for the look. Thank you again.

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LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 19/05/2024 07:38

They might be led by spot but strip

Most lighting is led now

ChillinwiththeVillains · 19/05/2024 07:51

Guess easier to lay if just strip? Will start searching online . Thank you

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LemonEagle · 20/05/2024 11:48

trouble is with a strip, when it eventually fails, you have to replace the whole strip. It may last for years/decades, but I'd personally recommend spotlights with LED replaceable bulbs. these little spike lights are unobtrusive, and you can use warm white, cool white, even smart bulbs controlled by your Alexa or similar from the house. https://www.universal-lighting.co.uk/products/opaz-mv-matt-black-aluminium-garden-spike-spot-light-ip44/ "Alexa, dim garden wall lights and make them very warm white".
clever stuff.

The existing wiring is probably as safe as it always was, but always best to get an electrician to check it for currect carrying capacity and RCD protection.

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user1471505356 · 21/05/2024 08:17

Many walls are jointly owned, I doubt the neighbours would worry what you do.

ChillinwiththeVillains · 22/05/2024 20:01

Those spots are way cheaper than I expected. Electrician coming over next week to scope the work. Starting to feel quite excited! Have been to neighbours who paid top dollar for garden landscaping and they had spots but said needed an "electrical plate" installed for each, assume that is so if one spot failed they wouldn't all?

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LemonEagle · 23/05/2024 08:36

ChillinwiththeVillains · 22/05/2024 20:01

Those spots are way cheaper than I expected. Electrician coming over next week to scope the work. Starting to feel quite excited! Have been to neighbours who paid top dollar for garden landscaping and they had spots but said needed an "electrical plate" installed for each, assume that is so if one spot failed they wouldn't all?

No idea what an electrical plate is, even so, if one spotlight fails, it will only be the bulb and the others will keep shining brightly through the night.
Your electrician will be able to tell you more.

ChillinwiththeVillains · 23/05/2024 08:44

Brilliant. He said it with such confidence that I assumed it was standard. Electrician coming over next week so will clear it all up there and show him the link to those spots. Thank you again

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heldinadream · 23/05/2024 08:50

@ChillinwiththeVillains when you get more info could you update? I'm moving house soon and thinking about garden design/lighting right now, would love to know what you find out! That pic is such a lovely effect, the light coming from the base of the wall.
Thank you.

ChillinwiththeVillains · 23/05/2024 09:07

I will feed back. And hopefully with photos later on too. I think I have refined my ideas and will use spots behind lavender bushes and borders. On the bare wall opposite they might look a bit harsh or choppy so am debating this type of light strip (but in warm white) . It's a really lovely old wall and north facing with no soil access so think growing something up it a non starter. Don't want to dig up patio for embedded lights. Will talk to electrician about this and can show him my pictures. He is going to love me.... And also planning to uplight fig and cherry tree.

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heldinadream · 23/05/2024 09:25

Thanks @ChillinwiththeVillains . Pics would be great! As we've only seen our new house twice and obviously concentrated on the house I'm a bit vague on exact size of garden etc, but I've realised I'm actually faaaaarrr more excited about the garden than the house and can't wait to get stuck in. At the moment it's a bit of a blank canvas, a single tree an out building and everything else is grass. A wall that faces the kitchen and fences each side. Wall is west facing. I will have plants along it but lighting behind feels a lovely idea.
We could be in by end of July (everything crossed).

ChillinwiththeVillains · 23/05/2024 09:40

I planned a new border in our garden using useful RHS planner. You can sort plants by bee friendly, hardy, perennial, aspect, type of soil etc.. and then they suggest the plants and varieties and from where you can source them- though check ebay too. Good luck with the move.

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