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Relocating to Keswick/Cockermouth Areas

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Lottemarine · 14/05/2024 05:38

Hi,

We are a family of 4 (3 and 2 year olds). Currently living in Western Australia, but considering relocating to Cumbria in the next few years, in particular Bassenthwaite/Lorton areas near Cockermouth/Keswick. Looking at rural properties with a bit of land, so kids can have a rural upbringing with an active local community,

Husband is originally from cockermouth but we haven’t lived in Cumbria for 12 years.

Just wondering if people could share their experiences of living there? The good, bad and ugly.

I’ve heard a lot of properties in these towns are turning into second homes or airbnbs and I guess we don’t want to move somewhere in the country without neighbours or a sense of community.

Thanks

OP posts:
decionsdecisions62 · 14/05/2024 06:03

I moved away years ago from Keswick but I notice Cockermouth is going the same way with second homes now. You're moving from one of the driest places on earth to one of the wettest. Take a coat!

Blackcats7 · 14/05/2024 06:52

You will probably be ok as your husband is originally from there but I moved to live in a hamlet near Keswick and we were detested as “incomers” and people were extremely unfriendly. Unbeknownst to us the property we bought had been the subject of a local farming family feud and they were influential in the area and encouraged others to hate us. We eventually found all this out after months of bewilderment when the one decent neighbour explained.
I even had my car damaged and broken into.
We sold up in less than a year and thankfully moved back home.

Lottemarine · 14/05/2024 07:47

Blackcats7 · 14/05/2024 06:52

You will probably be ok as your husband is originally from there but I moved to live in a hamlet near Keswick and we were detested as “incomers” and people were extremely unfriendly. Unbeknownst to us the property we bought had been the subject of a local farming family feud and they were influential in the area and encouraged others to hate us. We eventually found all this out after months of bewilderment when the one decent neighbour explained.
I even had my car damaged and broken into.
We sold up in less than a year and thankfully moved back home.

Oh no that sounds horrific, sorry to hear you had such a rough deal. Can I ask which hamlet it was or pm me? Thank you

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ZenNudist · 14/05/2024 07:53

My friend lives in Cockermouth. She lives right in the town. Her dc go to the local primary and she has a lovely group of friends with dc same age who live on the street. She did NCT and has good friends via that. I'm not sure how you make friends otherwise in the area.

It's handy enough for food shopping in Cockermouth and a lovely town with nice shops. Not so good for proper shopping and absolutely miles from the penrith station if she wants to go up and down the country.

Lots of outdoor adventures at the weekend. It seems a good life.

Not sure what secondary school options are like.

Where would you work? From home?

Seaside3 · 14/05/2024 08:03

I'd definitely look at public transport options. Some places have buses that only run for a few days in the summer, there can be quite a drive to the motor way and no trains. It depends on how much you get out and about and how involved you want to be with lifts etc.

We live in Cumbria, we have a train and buses, it makes a massive difference to our teens, who can just bugger off and see their mates. And our older two can visit easily too.

We have a good selection of shops, plus all the super markets deliver. I know.someone who moved to a hamlet locally, they struggle to meet friends, popping to.the shops is a mare, no local transport. They're moving because it's too isolating.

There's a great sense of community where we are, and it's made it much easier moving back to cumbria. I'd seriously consider if rural life is what you want with kids.

AllIWantIsACuppa · 14/05/2024 08:03

I live in Cockermouth. Been here 15 years ish.

Everyone is friendly on the surface but the friends I've made are people who have moved here rather than locals. I've found that locals tend to have a tight knit community that can be hard to break into.

That being said, us "incomers" are significant in size and a friendly bunch.

Cockermouth has experienced a bit of a second home / Airbnb boom in recent years, but the council has agreed to start charging more tax for these properties so it will hopefully settle down.

Primary schools are generally very good, I don't have experience of secondary schools.

There's one GP surgery covering the town and surrounding villages so good luck seeing a GP in person if you need it. There are very few dentists taking on patients privately and no NHS dentists.

Blackcats7 · 14/05/2024 08:17

Lottemarine · 14/05/2024 07:47

Oh no that sounds horrific, sorry to hear you had such a rough deal. Can I ask which hamlet it was or pm me? Thank you

Sorry I’m afraid not. As far as I know the family concerned are still big land owners in the area and it is such a small place they would be immediately identifiable.
I would try chatting to neighbours if you find somewhere you would like to buy as that should give you an idea of the degree of welcome you might get. Wish I had done that!

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 14/05/2024 08:25

I have family from near Keswick, I think if you want an active community cockermouth is a better shout, as so much of Keswick has been taken over by second homes abs businesses catering to the holiday market.

RunAwayNow · 14/05/2024 10:48

We were offcomers (as they say up there!) in Cockermouth for a few years. It's a lovely town, less touristy and second homey than Keswick, with loads going on for families.

We found it could be quite insular but there were a few villages with a reputation for being more welcoming of newcomers - Papcastle, Lorton and Tallentire. We lived in Papcastle and found it very easy to integrate into the community there. And it was a perfect location as you could easily walk into Cockermouth from there so you had everything on your doorstep. We were sad to leave (for work, not because we didn't like living there).

If your husband is originally local anyway, then I don't suppose you'd be seen as complete newbies!

decionsdecisions62 · 14/05/2024 17:00

I think it shows the extent of the insular attitude that I left Keswick when I was 18 but can still get money off in local shops because I'm from an old Keswick family yet someone who has lived there for 40 years will always be classed as an outsider!

KievLoverTwo · 14/05/2024 17:10

Blackcats7 · 14/05/2024 06:52

You will probably be ok as your husband is originally from there but I moved to live in a hamlet near Keswick and we were detested as “incomers” and people were extremely unfriendly. Unbeknownst to us the property we bought had been the subject of a local farming family feud and they were influential in the area and encouraged others to hate us. We eventually found all this out after months of bewilderment when the one decent neighbour explained.
I even had my car damaged and broken into.
We sold up in less than a year and thankfully moved back home.

I often watch Escape to the Country where the presenter raves on about the local community and think 'what nonsense is this?'

I haven't bothered trying to settle into the village I'm in (we're in a rental, I hate the house), but local folk on Facebook seem to be nothing but petty and downright awful to one another.

It feels like friendly local communities are the exception, rather than the rule.

I am sorry for your horrible experience and hope you are somewhere good now.

Blackcats7 · 14/05/2024 17:17

KievLoverTwo · 14/05/2024 17:10

I often watch Escape to the Country where the presenter raves on about the local community and think 'what nonsense is this?'

I haven't bothered trying to settle into the village I'm in (we're in a rental, I hate the house), but local folk on Facebook seem to be nothing but petty and downright awful to one another.

It feels like friendly local communities are the exception, rather than the rule.

I am sorry for your horrible experience and hope you are somewhere good now.

I am back in the lovely New Forest which I never wanted to leave in the first place, ex husband pressured me into the move to cumbria as he was a scouser wanting to move nearer to his friends.
I would never leave home again.

KievLoverTwo · 14/05/2024 17:38

Blackcats7 · 14/05/2024 17:17

I am back in the lovely New Forest which I never wanted to leave in the first place, ex husband pressured me into the move to cumbria as he was a scouser wanting to move nearer to his friends.
I would never leave home again.

I wouldn't leave the new forest for Cumbria either.

Glad you are home and happy :)

Mumofoneandone · 14/05/2024 18:01

Family members have lived in Keswick for years, so visit fairly often and get updates. Gets very busy at times, a lot of second homes which obviously affects community feel.
It is a beautiful place and if it feels right to move there, go for it!! Maybe worth renting for a chunk of time before buying to get a feel for the area?

schloss · 14/05/2024 18:10

Anywhere in the Lakes is always going to have second homes, self catering and lots of B&B, due to the amount of tourists who visit the area. In excess of 20 million per year, so for all those who dislike the visitors and offcomers, many locals also understand the financial benefit to the area, so it is very much a balance.

Many locals run tourist businesses and have sold houses to the second home owners at high prices, whilst then complaining that locals cannot afford property!

The ages of your children, there are some lovely well supported local schools, Lorton being one of them. Keswick and Cockermouth of course have senior schools.

Becoming part of the local community is possible, there is always plenty going on in the small villages plus in the larger towns too, what locals do not like is people who come in and then want to change things, from little changes to local events through to making huge changes to houses. Move, get to know the locals by offering help, attending events, volunteering etc but do it in a calm, quiet way. What you will find is over time you will begin to fit in and then for example if you wish to build an extension onto your home, you are more likely to get support from the locals with the planning process.

In any area there will always be people who seem stand offish and not accepting of others, this happens as much in Cumbria as other areas. Being a large farming area, you have to understand many of the land owners become a little peeved with visitors and offcomers who let their dogs chase their sheep, try and tell hill farmers that the area should be rewilded and everyone should be vegan! It is not a good way to gain the support of the community! My parents farm in Cumbria, they are lovely (of course I would say that!) but my father in particular can have a whole conversation, leaning on his shepherds crook, and not saying many more words than "alright" and "aye"! That is how many Cumbrians are - we are not rude, just sometimes we don't say much but we are also a very welcoming and friendly bunch of people.

What I suppose I am trying to say is everyone will have a story of so and so large landowner was peed off because so and so purchased a house which they wanted so and so to buy. It happens everywhere. When moving to an area and buying a property you have to do your own investigation and make up your own mind as to if it is right for you.

Keswick and Cockermouth are very different, the obvious one being Keswick is a major tourist area but it is in the centre of some of the best fells and outdoor areas the Lakes has to offer. Cockermouth has more of a market town feel. You mention Lorton and Bassenthwaite, of course they are much smaller so difficult to compare with Keswick and Cockermouth.

If you want land, then you will obviously be more rural to get that, there are many lovely little hamlets and villages near both Keswick and Cockermouth, I think your biggest difficulty will be finding a property for sale, irrespective of how big your budget is!

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