Planning application - childrens care home

[Figgygal]

a planning application to convert a home has been submitted in our village.

Its a tiny village with a tiny school, village hall and pub, no bus service, council seem determined to approve housing applications on every green space and have now bought a house 4 doors away from us for a privately run children's home. Only 3 residents aged up to 11, permanently staffed. It's next to the village hall so plenty of parking for all the comings and goings and that's why they've targeted it I expect.
Theyve also allegedly bought a 2nd property on the other side of the main road opposite the village hall for a 2nd home for up to 3 11-17 year olds though this is just rumour at the moment.

The village fb group is negative I just can't decide if there is actually a need to worry about houses being devalued and anti social behaviour etc
Anyone got any experience of this?
What would you think about this? Would it bother you or not?
Would you buy a house near a home of this nature?

Don't know what to think or what questions to ask if we get an opportunity to.

Thanks

I can't believe the tone of this - are you seriously asking if small care settings for a small number of very vulnerable children might affect the property values in your naice village? Wow.

Seriously! WTF OP?

I thought the general public weren't supposed to know where children's homes were, for the protection of the children who live there.

It's 3 troubled kids.
They will have better than 1:1 support.
They need to be in a village like yours to heal.

Victims of abuse and child sexual abuse who need help.

The people who are worrying about what it will do to house prices to help these children are frankly evil.

3 11 yr olds won’t ruin your life. Give a thought to their rotten life though.

I think possibly it's my landlord doing that op. Evicting families in our area to provide for children in need... It's about the tax implications apparently.. She isn't a nice woman. It won't be well run. Her other ones have terrible reviews and stories...
Hopefully I am wrong op. The dc need decent places to live. And why not on our doorsteps?

Exactly this. Empathy is such an underused value.

It’s 3 children. Even if it was 30 children, I’m sure you and the people in your village would be able to cope.

This reminds me of the episode in Desperate Housewives when Paul tried to open up a rehabilitation centre for ex cons, on Wisteria Lane. They were clearly spot on with that episode

Think how wonderful it would be if your village all got together to welcome and help these children! Haven’t the children been through enough?

Actually I think these services are dreadfully underfunded, utterly necessary and must battle against an awful amount of stigma and I'm not even opposed to it amd nowhere did i say i was in my op but I was in minority in our group so was worried I was being naive hence one of my questions being does anyone have experience of this themselves?

These companies are making enough money to buy houses. Lots of houses.

the council have bought the house, they then appoint the operator and its the operator who submit the change of use application to the council - which is ridiculous.

This happened on the estate we live on. It ultimately wasn’t fair on the young residents of the care home or the neighbours.

They were mostly young teens and there were endless incidents of the police attending due to the staff having to abide safety protocols if a young person didn’t return, but equally they’d climb on the roof of the conservatory and refuse to come down on a regular basis etc.

Eventually, the decision was taken to close down the home and return it to being just a residential house. I feel sorry for all parties involved, it wasn’t the right setting to have a care home. And our crime stats went up by about 300% due to previous having next to none, which did impact on our insurance premiums.

Three kids? No different to a family moving in with three kids.

NIMBY-ism!

A primary school near us closed over 13 years ago, apparently the land was given to the Council for use by children of the village. Somehow the council has tried to get this changed and has submitted plans for a young adults assisted housing scheme. This has been going on for such a long time, with nothing seeming to be progressed. We were all asked what we would like to happen to the land over 10 years ago and most said they would like somewhere built that would offer respite care for families, but this got turned down.

We used to live in a house where one of the houses on the road was owned by the local authority. It was a home for 4 children, I'm not sure of their actual ages but they seemed to be around the early teens ages. There was once a family of 3 girls ( siblings) living there and the youngest was around nine years old. I know because we were chatting with them as one of the girls had asked DH to fix her bike (it was a sunny day and we were in our garden). He did fix the bike but didn't ever see them again. Some children only stayed a short time others were there longer and we got to recognise them by sight.
We would see police cars at the property fairly often, apparently for minor stuff, broken windows etc and parking could be an issue on Mondays as staff meetings took place at the house but other than that we were never aware of any other problems. The home was well staffed. We thought there were noise issues during the summer months, loud music and cars turning up in the early hours, turns out that was coming from the family in the house next door to the home. We didn't know it was a home for looked after children when we bought our house and it didn't come up when we sold it. We lived there for ten years.

This. No words op. Some people are just disgusting

I have personal experience of this. We had no problem with the children living there but we did have a problem with the way it was done.

The agency rented the three bed home off the owner and did major renovations to make it into a care home. They did not apply for planning permission or change of use.

The first child came at midnight and we thought it was drug dealers and nearly called the police as it was obvious something was being handed over in secret. This something was the poor child.

If we had been told what was happening we would have embraced it instead of thinking they were just dodgy neighbours.

It didn't last more than a year due to no permission for the change of use and the council shut it down.

The parking was a slight problem.

As you already know about it I really don't see any problems.

My friend lives next door to a larger one for very troubled teens and it causes her no problems except a bit of bad language overheard.

Of course - it's not you it's the neighbours that are NIMBYs 🙄

You will be perfectly fine and hardly noticed any difference. I say this as someone who owns several children's homes. It's the automatic reaction..... and trust me, many on here being a little self righteous would themselves have a little panic if one was opening right next to them. I've never opened a home where there hasn't been objection. But the worries are always unfounded and never materialize. As long as parking is adequate you won't notice any difference. You could have any type of family moving in to one of these larger properties causing all sorts of trouble. Neighbours are pot luck. With a children's care home there is a huge amount of governance so will always be controlled. Children are in care for many reasons. They deserve a great place to live and your village sounds ideal. House prices don't change from experience as the village will stay the same.

It's for 3 children aged up to 11. How awful that this is the reaction.

There is one up the road from me. Its not any bother. It doesn't say its a care home but we all know it is. You don't see the children at all.

This happened in our village and villagers clubbed together to buy if first.Ithink they completed in 4 days

This is shocking. Anyone can buy a home and have three vulnerable kids in it, due to shit parents or whatever. At least these are being cared for by profffessionals. I can’t beleive anyone would take issue with this, I wouldn’t.

Classic nimbyism and snobbery

It will not devalue your house. You won't even notice it once it's there.