Any Irish property gurus out there?

[bran]

What do you think the asking price for this would be? And how much do you think it's worth? And would I be likely to get planning permission to restore the cottage and build a new house further into the property?

Here are some other properties in the same area for comparison. All of these properties have been on the market for quite a while, some over a year.

Fewer acres and no direct lake access.

Less land, dated house but fantastic deep-water harbour.

Totally gorgeous, also no price so a bit unhelpful but the kind of harbour and grounds that I would like to make.

Very near original property, nice house, direct lake access but no harbour (possibly could make a mooring pier).

A bit further North, and IMO hugely overpriced, but lots of land.

HI Bran, certainly not a guru but I do live in Ireland- re planning permission each small area in Ireland will have its own rules re planning (even areas 5-6 miles apart can have different rules) so don't even attempt to buy anything without getting the low down from local people. The Irish property market is in a real slow down right now following years of crazy prices so it would be a good time to buy-just call up the agents and ask what the guiding price is - anything on the market for a while is definitely open to offers! They all look lovely - good luck!

HI Bran, certainly not a guru but I do live in Ireland- re planning permission each small area in Ireland will have its own rules re planning (even areas 5-6 miles apart can have different rules) so don't even attempt to buy anything without getting the low down from local people. The Irish property market is in a real slow down right now following years of crazy prices so it would be a good time to buy-just call up the agents and ask what the guiding price is - anything on the market for a while is definitely open to offers! They all look lovely - good luck!

HI Bran, certainly not a guru but I do live in Ireland- re planning permission each small area in Ireland will have its own rules re planning (even areas 5-6 miles apart can have different rules) so don't even attempt to buy anything without getting the low down from local people. The Irish property market is in a real slow down right now following years of crazy prices so it would be a good time to buy-just call up the agents and ask what the guiding price is - anything on the market for a while is definitely open to offers! They all look lovely - good luck!

Looks like my msge got a case of the stutters! sorry!!!!1

shinners. You know how to make a point.

I might get a friend to call for me, I have a feeling that the starting price might be a little lower for an Irish-accented enquiry than for foreign-sounding one (I've lost my accent after living London for 2 decades).

I think there can be different rules for people already living in the area from those who aren't... are you looking at moving to the country instead of Dublin now or are these for holiday homes? [stalkerish emoticon]

Co Leitrim is beautiful but I agree that property is totally overpriced - maybe because of the land - can you find out how much farming land is worth in that area to get a feel for how much they are adding on for that?

This will be for a holiday home . Although if there was a good C of I/non-dominational primary school I would be tempted to live there, have the Dublin house as a second home and move back to Dublin when ds goes to secondary school.

I have a half-baked plan to offer very basic fishing/camping holidays if I manage to buy somewhere on a river/lake. The fishermen would be able to pitch their tent where they fish or perhaps hire one of these and so they could fish 24 hrs a day if they want. I would need to build a toilet/shower block, but otherwise it ought to be fairly straight-forward to set up.

Were you someone else before you were GrapefuitMoon (I take an interest in my stalkers )?

Ha. Well if it is Dromineer/Portroe you are talking about there is a choice of national school or Gaelscoil. One more Catholic than the other. Roscommon I don't know about. Personally, I like the look of that total wreck in Co Leitrim, nice price though.

Bran, I used to be KTeePee (and something else before that )

Do you think fishermen would be interested in camping? Have you thought of a B&B? - just thinking of the Irish climate and how nice it would be to go back to somewhere warm and cosy at the end of the day!

GM, I could never run a B&B, there is a long list of things that are intrinsic to running a B&B that I could never stand. I don't think Ireland really has a shortage of B&Bs anyway. I'm shuddering at the thought of all that housework and having strangers in my home.

Fishermen are surprisingly hardy, my ex-boss fishes and will go out in all weather. He reckons that the key issues in any fishing holiday are the quality of the fishing and whether there is a pub nearby, creature comforts come way down the list of priorities. I ran my idea past him and he thought there would be takers in the summer months. I could always put a drying area/tumble dryer in the shower block. Those little vans that I linked to earlier can have a tiny wood-burning stove installed as an option too.

Rosa, I was reading recently that sending your child to Gaelscoil has become very trendy in Dublin. When I think of how much effort most of my generation put into avoiding studying Irish it's really quite surprising that they are so keen to immerse their kids in it.

How I suffered, Bran. As discussed on another recent thread, I think there is scope for a Peig survivors group on here.

When I was home last week there was a tv show on about a stand-up comedian who had moved to Ireland as a teenager but was old enough not to have learned Irish.... he was so curious about all the moaning people do about it that he was trying to learn it - only saw a bit of it but it looked interesting! (Think it was called "In the name of the fada" or something....)

I think you had to be eight to get out of learning Irish. How I wished my parents had taken me out of the country for those crucial few years.

Hi KerryMum, I am from Ireland but I haven't lived there for a couple of decades. The plan is to move back in about 18 months or so.

I hadn't thought of the builder issue at all, but with the market slowing down there might be fewer new homes being built and therefore more builders available. Of course it could go the other way with people not being able to sell their current homes they might extend instead so labour might be even harder to come by. Either way I will probably have an architect and a project manager so it'll be their problem (I hope). Or there are some kit companies if things get desperate. This one is Scottish, but the designs could easily pass for Irish farmhouse.

Was Peig the rather dreary woman from the Blasket Islands (or somewhere similar)? My paternal grandfather met her, he spoke fluent Irish and once spent a whole summer on the Blasket Islands (or whererever it was). Weirdo. That book was dire, it took so much effort to do the translation and nothing interesting ever happened.

bran,
it's always so hard to tell from photos and I don't know Leitrim either so won't hazard a guess, but a quick phonecall from your friend is a good idea.

Sounds lovely your fishing/camping idea.

Just beware of the falling prices, according to economist today they could fall another 10-15%, although they do get it wrong most of the time. Or if you do go for something, bargain the price downwards!

www.rte.ie/news/2008/0401/economy.html

Ah yes Peig. Great memories. Didn't she once nearly steal a chicken or some eggs , but then didn't, and felt guilty about it. Wasn't that one of the non-stories

There must be some reason why it was not widely read in translation. It could easily have been marketed as a soporific.
A little Peig at bedtime...